So at my uncle private pond which I fish ALOT and they've been sufacing like crazying around 7 pm.. like everywhere! the thing is they won't touch anything i throw at them I've tried top water, spinners, squarebills ,weightless soft plastics, jigs,  etc... I only catch them after the frenzy has stopped... any tips for fishing catching this fish.. ?

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Walk the dog lures in jr. size,small poppers, friend would kill them with homemade flies in shad colors..try casting slightly outside a boil if doing that

what are they eating?

match the hatch

Bugs, there surfacing for bugs. I'd get some bass flys and poppers use a leader and a bobber on your spinning rod if you don't have a bass fly rod.

Checkout the flyshack and fishandsave for the fly fishing bass stuff. On eBay there is a guy from vt who makes bumble bees and mouse flies. He does some excellent work. I purchased a lot of his flys just for his quality workmanship. I never seen bumble bees tied like his.

Don't forget the rebel small bug cranks too. Just cast it it and twitch it.

Bugs, there surfacing for bugs. I'd get some bass flys and poppers use a leader and a bobber on your spinning rod if you don't have a bass fly rod.

Checkout the flyshack and fishandsave for the fly fishing bass stuff. On eBay there is a guy from vt who makes bumble bees and mouse flies. He does some excellent work. I purchased a lot of his flys just for his quality workmanship. I never seen bumble bees tied like his.

Don't forget the rebel small bug cranks too. Just cast it it and twitch it.

that's what I was think using flys.. ill look into for sure

I've tried small poppers and spooks of all sizes... jr I try a lot..

 

as to match the hatch I do...they eat blue gill, bugs, frogs, and  crawdads..

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Is it possible that they are carp? A lot of times carp will just roam around on the surface feeding like crazy and they won't touch a lure other than (sometimes) a small fly.

 

If they definitely aren't carp then i would say get a very small white soft plastic swimbait (an inch or less), and just nose hook it or texas rig it weightless. Use a spinning rod and cast it out where they are rising, and make it look like a dieing baitfish.

Is it possible that they are carp? A lot of times carp will just roam around on the surface feeding like crazy and they won't touch a lure other than (sometimes) a small fly.

 

If they definitely aren't carp then i would say get a very small white soft plastic swimbait (an inch or less), and just nose hook it or texas rig it weightless. Use a spinning rod and cast it out where they are rising, and make it look like a dieing baitfish.

Yeah there isn't carp.. but I will try that I have blue gill pattern 3 inch swimbaits so I'll get some small white ones. I tried a white grub for about 10 mins...nothing.... my uncle used a very small spoon with a yellow feather tail had a pike 1st cast bass the second... then they wouldn't touch it after that... also I've tried flukes in every color they sell at gander and dicks...

Get a very small floating jerkbait ( less than 2" long), and toss it near them and jerk it half a foot or so deep and let it float then do it again. This is similar to the spoon technique.

Are you positive they're bass? Some of our local lakes have huge schools of bluegills that push across the surface just like bass do, especially after a big bug hatch, and clean everything off the surface that they can eat. All our shad and baitfish are pretty tiny right now and a Zara Puppy in chrome/black is about the only bait the schooling fish will eat. 

zara puppy or the smallest pop-r you can find with oversized feathers on the rear treble. fish slow and let the feathers work.

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Write it down, covered a few of my faves. 

 

If these are causing too much havoc at the surface (yes there is such a thing), then throw something really small profiled, because as mentioned they are eating insects. Bugs are subtle and small.

Are you positive they're bass? Some of our local lakes have huge schools of bluegills that push across the surface just like bass do, especially after a big bug hatch, and clean everything off the surface that they can eat. All our shad and baitfish are pretty tiny right now and a Zara Puppy in chrome/black is about the only bait the schooling fish will eat.

Yeah I'm sure there bass I can see them with my glasses and I do catch one here and there its not consisent with the amount of surfacing I see.

I have tried the pop-Rs and threw an 6 treble with a huge feather one fish.. I'll have to take out my jerkbaits next time I go out.