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I'm thinking about giving the spybait technique a try this spring question is why is everyone saying this is only a clear water presentation? I mean its small I guess but you fish it slow and it has props to create a bit of a wake.

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I'm going to be giving spybaiting a try this spring for the first time as well. I believe the main reason it's considered a clear water technique is because it is such a subtle bait, but that doesn't mean that it won't work in dirtier water. 

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I fished the DUO Realis Spinbait 80 a lot last fall on St. Clair, I haven't gotten a chance to fish it in dirty water. But I did well with and I am really looking forward to fishing it this spring. I wrote a blog on this today. Just covering the basics.

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I've fished them in stained water with great success. I actually got more bites with a moderate retrieve over deep grass than slow rolling it.

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I have one but haven't used it yet. I'm excited to try it though on our one lake. It's crystal clear and always a tough place to fish. Hopefully showing them something new might do the trick.

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Short answer is a finesse hard bait meant to be fished on light line and spinning gear. Look up duo realis spinbait 80 and you'll find plenty of good info.

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I am not sold on it at all. I think a swimbait will out perform it all day long. It really doesn't do much, and I find it hard to believe the two props are going to make a fish eat it better than a ordinary sinking jerkbait.

Just my two cents for all it's worth.

J-

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I am not sold on it at all. I think a swimbait will out perform it all day long. It really doesn't do much, and I find it hard to believe the two props are going to make a fish eat it better than a ordinary sinking jerkbait.

Just my two cents for all it's worth.

J-

 

 

To be fair, it's a MUCH slower presentation.  I could see its merits in warm water with lazy fish.  That slow wag is certainly different, whether or not it's effective will really depend on individual applications.  I think different is good, so for not being very expensive it's a positive to have it as an option.    

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To be fair, it's a MUCH slower presentation.  I could see its merits in warm water with lazy fish.  That slow wag is certainly different, whether or not it's effective will really depend on individual applications.  I think different is good, so for not being very expensive it's a positive to have it as an option.

I think you need to see a spinbait in action, it's a sinker with props on it.

I'd take a swimbait over one if I wanted to fish slow

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I think you need to see a spinbait in action, it's a sinker with props on it.

I'd take a swimbait over one if I wanted to fish slow

 

I have a few of the Duo Realis Spinbaits, and they are a lot smaller profile than almost any swimbait I have seen. They are also dense and sink fast. Any soft swimbait that small will rise too easily when reeling it in. The spinbait is small and dense. I will be giving it a shot this year.

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I think you need to see a spinbait in action, it's a sinker with props on it.

I'd take a swimbait over one if I wanted to fish slow

 

 

Lol I know what a spinbait is.    

 

 

I guess I don't really care, it's just interesting to see how offended some people get over the whole "spybait" dealio.  I think I'm going to start calling it crybait, since people seem to automatically get their panties in a twist simply over the audacity to call it something sexy and James Bondish like "spybait".     

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What's a spy bait?

$12.99 lure that you have to throw on $20.00 4lb floro that is probably lost on 2nd or 3rd cast

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I have a few of the Duo Realis Spinbaits, and they are a lot smaller profile than almost any swimbait I have seen. They are also dense and sink fast. Any soft swimbait that small will rise too easily when reeling it in. The spinbait is small and dense. I will be giving it a shot this year.

There are many many many small swimbaits that IMHO look more like a bait fish than a spybait. Most of them can be rigged with any weight you choice. If fishing a spybait slow is the trick then any swim bait with the correct weight can be fished equally as slow or even slower since they are weedless and can even be dragged on the bottom.

I feel like fishermen try to by the latest and greatest thing just because it's new! Kind of like women and the newest trending clothes/shoes. No matter how funny or stupid it looks just to say they have it. Just remember the old helicopter lure. You saw it on TV you saw someone catch a fish with it and had to have one. Truth be told under the right conditions you can catch a bass or any fish with a hook tied to a stick.

To each their own but as for me it's a no go.

J

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I guess I don't really care

I guess you would care if you asked a question and someone gave you the wrong answers, like your own lews thread, I bet you would care for the right information.

No one is hating here, dont know where you get that out of this thread, nothing but replies based off the question in hand.

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I guess you would care if you asked a question and someone gave you the wrong answers, like your own lews thread, I bet you would care for the right information.

No one is hating here, dont know where you get that out of this thread, nothing but replies based off the question in hand.

 

 

Lol...  Nice try, but I'm saying it doesn't make a difference to me what someone else chooses to throw, not that I don't care about any information posted here ever.  I was simply commenting on how upset people seem to get over the fact that this isn't "different enough" to be deserving of a new nomenclature i.e.- "It's just a prop bait with x, y and z added on!".  Honestly that's the part where I stop caring.  You're entitled to your opinion about baits, but until you've used it that's pure speculation.    

 

 

Besides, I like the term crybait.  I'm going to start using it more often- the salt makes fish hold on longer on a strike from what I hear ;) 

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Dual prop sinking baits have been around for a long time - they went out of favor years ago but the craftsmanship these new ones have should make them good lures for certain situations. As my old mentor told me years ago "If it has a hook, it can catch fish."

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Fun lure to throw but also nerve racking cause you tend to hang it up on deeper structure. I like it in California mountain lakes where its mostly open water with fish stacking in the water column on giant granite boulders the size of a house. But in Midwest lakes and streams with limbs and root wads it makes me want to pack my snorkel and facemask to save such pricey lures. I don't know why JDM stuff has to be so expensive would be a regular standby for me if it was in the $5-7 price point. And again throwing it on 5-7lb. Line keeps you on your toes

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After fishing the spinbait 80 a bit, you aren't going to duplicate it with a swimbait, it's action is completely different. It wobbles a bit like a senko on the pause, but sinks much faster. It has a slow roll on the retrieve while the props spin so fast it's difficult to tell they're even moving at all until you lift it out of the water. Like every other bait out there, it's not a magic bullet, but it does catch fish and I think it will find it's niche in fishermen's tackle boxes who are willing to give it a shot.

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Do not mean to spam, but if you would like to know more about the technique, this video is a good start

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3idsy52Hw

 

It gives the essentials of the technique and in the same playlist you can also find several other video giving more clues about how to best utilize the technique, be it kind of not or gear.

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Yes!  No one throw it!  It's a jerkbait with no action.  Fish a jerkbait or small swimbait instead. 

 

I will comment though, the bait has for some reason earned a LOT of defense and also I can't figure it out but a lot of the swimbait only crowd seems to like it! 

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