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Hey guys, so don't make fun of me too bad if this is a stupid question. Anyway, I have an *** Black that is rated for 1/4-5/8oz, and I have a really awesome D&M bladed swimjig in bluegill that I really want to use but its 3/4oz. Would I be crazy to try using this on a rod that isn't rated for it? This rod is my first "good" baitcasting set up so I don't wanna break it because of such a stupid mistake. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

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What blank/rod do you have?  May be able to give you more of an answer since I have quite a few of them.

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The lure ratings are guidines. There's also no set standard in the rod industry. The rod will probably feel a bit overloaded with that bait and you could suffer some decrease in casting distance but it'll throw it. 5/8 is usually what a medium power rid is rated around.

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It is a Medium fast *** Black in 6'10". And I'm not too worried about losing a bit of distance, I just don't want my rod to break on a cast

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It's not gonna break as long as you don't try and "bomb" it.  Pitch casting, underhand role cast you shouldn't have an issue.  Just don't try and load the rod up too much and lob you bait.  A MH would probably be better for that size but it will perform if you're gentle.

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I have never paid any attention to lure weight ratings on rods and have never lost sleep over it.

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Can't address that particular rod but overloading where I fish is a way of life.  Not only me but a lot of people I see toss 1-1.5 even 2 oz on a 3/4 rated rod.  Doing this for years and years, I've never had a rod break or seen one break, and whip them out pretty hard.  1/8 oz over max should pose no problem.

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You can normally feel if the rod is overloaded, and rod ratings are different from brand to brand. Falcon rods are spot on, if you had a medium power rated to 1/2oz, there is no way you would even think of throwing a 5/8oz bait on it as you can tell the rod is at its maximum. Other brands like St. Croix that are rated to 5/8oz feel as if you can easily add more to it and so it goes with all the other brands as well. My advise is to see how it feels, tie it on and see how much the rod loads compared to a 1/2oz bait, and when you go to cast, make a side arm cast first with a short back cast and see how it feels, the may work on the retrieve but you may find you have to lob cast and so you'll lose out on distance until you get a rod that is more powerful. I find most medium heavy rods are more versatile when it comes to single hook baits just because they handle a wider range of lure sizes much easier than a medium power rod does.

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I'm glad SirSnookalot chimed in with his vast experience.  I also agree with smalljaw.  I find Falcon rods to be correct in their weight listings.  As a matter of fact I don't like pulling a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait against the current in a river with my Medium.  (Which is rated 1/4-1/2 oz.)  My MH rods outnumber Medium rods for the same reason smalljay mentioned.  I think they are more versatile for how I fish.

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My punching rod is rating to 1 1/2 oz. And had to use a 2 oz. a few times last summer and didn't flinch.

7' 4" Smoke H/XF

Mike

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Falcon's are really close, ***'s are a bit under rated. Their MH could be a heavy in a Falcon, and their M are inbetween a M action and a MH. I've used many 68 hudds on their Green *** MH 7'7" and although not rated for baits of that size, I could still underhand cast them quite well.  Think I was an ounce over if not more. 

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The 3 of you seem to be the only ones I can recall saying you think Falcon is rated true. The majority seem to have the same opinion I do on them. That is that Falcon rods are rated 1 power too high. For me their 6'10 H pitchin stick is a mh when compared to other rods. Their 7' med/mod is the same way. It's more of a medium light when compared and the lure ratings suggest the same. Nice rods but underpowered to me.

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The 3 of you seem to be the only ones I can recall saying you think Falcon is rated true. The majority seem to have the same opinion I do on them. That is that Falcon rods are rated 1 power too high. For me their 6'10 H pitchin stick is a mh when compared to other rods. Their 7' med/mod is the same way. It's more of a medium light when compared and the lure ratings suggest the same. Nice rods but underpowered to me.

I agree with this statement, I have a couple spinning rods , like his statement, nice rods, but I certainly believe they are underpowered, I do like them for the money, as long as your aware of the blanks misleading ratings...

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I agree with this statement, I have a couple spinning rods , like his statement, nice rods, but I certainly believe they are underpowered, I do like them for the money, as long as your aware of the blanks misleading ratings...

I have rods that fish both light as well as heavy for what they are marketed to be.  Don't feel they are bad rods just labeled wrong, I use them for what I think they are.

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The 3 of you seem to be the only ones I can recall saying you think Falcon is rated true. The majority seem to have the same opinion I do on them. That is that Falcon rods are rated 1 power too high. For me their 6'10 H pitchin stick is a mh when compared to other rods. Their 7' med/mod is the same way. It's more of a medium light when compared and the lure ratings suggest the same. Nice rods but underpowered to me.

 

I'm not talking about their power rating as in M, MH, or H, I'm talking about the lure weight rating in numbers, every Falcon rod I've had the pleasure of using is like that. For example, The 7' Medium power BuCoo cranker is rated 1/4oz to 1/2oz,  now that rating is normally on the conservative side with most manufacturers, meaning that a rod rated to 1/2oz you can get away with throwing at least a 5/8oz bait but the Falcons I've used it isn't so, 1/2oz is it unless you carefully make a lob cast. The Cara T7 I used last year was a 7'  medium heavy, it was rated to 3/4oz and at 3/4oz you knew the rod was at its limit, there was no going to 7/8oz. I also agree with you that they label their rods a power under, as their heavy power rods are more like medium heavy but the lure weight ratings are spot on.

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Can't address that particular rod but overloading where I fish is a way of life.  Not only me but a lot of people I see toss 1-1.5 even 2 oz on a 3/4 rated rod.

Mike long does this. He uses dobyns rods rated to 1 ounce with 2+ ounce baits!

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Lure weight rating (usually a range in fractions of an oz) and power rating (M/MH/H....) have a correlation but are not one in the same as I look at it. A given rod may have a tip that will load and cast a given weight but may have a ton of backbone allowing for fishing in heavier cover. Such a rod may have a Heavier rating than another with similar casting ability but less power in the butt. With no industry standard and only subjective terminology, only personal experience will tell for sure, and trusted feedback as is found here can point toward likely options. 

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I use it as a guide.  It ultimately depends on how it "feels" when you use it.  Namely in casting the lure and how much feel you have in while retrieving. 

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