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  I don't understand this.  This happened on a lake here in Indiana.  

 

http://www.wbiw.com/local/archive/2015/05/boat-capsizes-on-lake-lemon-one-man-dies.php

 

 

  So a sixteen foot flat bottom boat capsized from the wake of a larger pontoon boat.  None of the three guys had on life jackets.   One died.  

 

 How does a sixteen foot boat capsize from the wake of a pontoon boat?  I have a Ride 115 kayak that I would put up against he wake of any boat on any lake in Indiana.  

How does a sixteen foot flat bottom boat capsize from a Pontoon boat?  I don't own a pontoon but Iv'e been on a few the last few years and I don't think I've ever seen 

a pontoon go fast. 

 

 So, were the three guys standing all on one side?  I know accidents happen but those guys don't sound very smart.  

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Sometimes the unexpected happens, with terrible consequences.  Could have been a one-in-a-million-odds freak thing.  Nobody expects to capsize.  Nobody expects to need their PFD.  

 

 

Tight lines,

Bob

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Sad.

Not sure a pfd would have helped the poor fella that lost his life.

Definitely wouldn't have hurt him though.

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How does a 16 foot Jon boat capsize? There are some older jon boats with a narrow hull, possible it could be one of those narrower versions. 3 people in a boat like that can easily capsize. I imagine they were sitting parallel to the wake and rolled down the backside with their weight on the low end, when they hit the bottom of the roller they flipped.

 

 

Also - -never seen a pontoon go fast!? On my local lake we have pontoons with 250's. They throw some wake son! 

 

 

 

Wondering about how accidents happen? Check this gut wrencher out man: http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/local/2015/03/30/16-year-old-boy-saves-children-after-fatal-boat-accident-in-pearl-river/70651050/

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I had a really light jonboat that was 12' and narrow, not much more stable than a canoe really. 

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If it was a shallow, flat bottom skiff it could roll easily. All it would take is one person leaning over when a wake hit. I've seen someone do it in a kayak before. Hate hearing about that kind of stuff.

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Probably an older Jon, had a 14 footer once with a 32 beam at the bottom. Couldn't even stand in it, only used it by myself too unstable to put ppl in. I ended up scrapping it.

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I have been passed by pontoons with a 300 on the back. 

although, wake was small.

My first boat was a really narrow flat bottom, and by my self would be no issue, but with three people or if standing, very unstable.

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Vessel operators are responsible for their wake & any damage it causes - even in Indiana ~

 

http://www.boat-ed.com/abc/abc_specific_images/pdfs/in_law.pdf

 

Life Jackets not worn don't perform well.

 

A-Jay

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I dumped my 10ft Tarpon Kayak a number of years ago about a hundred yards from a boat launch on a small lake.  I was heading directly into some small waves and a boat sped off from the launch area creating a wake that hit me sideways.  Waves from the front and wake from the side are not a good combination.  Thankfully, I was wearing a PFD - sometimes listening to the wife has benefits :angel500:

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Who do you imply isn't smart? The unfortunate Jon boaters, or the pontoon boaters?

Nobody wins in a accident, no one.. A man lost his life. The best thing anyone can do is take note & learn from it.

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I've fished out of a 16' jon boat for the past 8 years. Very easy to imagine 3 adults in that size boat with just a 15" transom getting swamped by a good wake. Some pontoon boats on my home lake run up to 300hp or with twin 150s now days. A pontoon coming in and turning into and then away from the jon boaters, or running by at a very close distance, could easily accomplish this. Sadly, many people I've observed in pontoons have no clue as to the wake their boats make, or to safe boating distances. I routinely took a wave or three over the back of my jon on many trips from careless boaters or being turned in a bad direction when a large wave hit. Sad...

 

-T9

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I agree with Team9nine. The article also doesn't state whether the aluminum boat was underway or not. A wake at 20-30-40mph is a totally different beast in a flat bottom boat. 

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Also with 3 grown men in a tin boat of that size, it could've been over the weight capacity causing the boat to be top heavy that resulted in it capsizing

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No wake from my 38' lobster boat, leaving the harbor early in the morning.  At least 30 years ago.

 

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With 3 ppl in a small boat like that it could have been sitting very low in the water as well making it easy for a roller to come over the side. 

 

I don't own a pontoon but Iv'e been on a few the last few years and I don't think I've ever seen a pontoon go fast. 

 

 

 

I guess you haven't seen this guy then? 

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With 3 ppl in a small boat like that it could have been sitting very low in the water as well making it easy for a roller to come over the side. 

 

 

I guess you haven't seen this guy then? 

 

No Kill Switch worn, No seat belt or body restraint of any kind & No Helmet - and all at over 100 MPH on the water.

 

Dead Man Motor Boating.

 

(And in my very best Jeff Foxworthy voice)  If you put 900 HP on your Pontoon Boat, you might be a Redneck.

 

A-Jay

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Nobody wins in a accident, no one.. A man lost his life. The best thing anyone can do is take note & learn from it.

 

 

^ To me, this is the truth of the matter....

 

 

Be safe,

Bob

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No Kill Switch worn, No seat belt or body restraint of any kind & No Helmet - and all at over 100 MPH on the water.

Dead Man Motor Boating.

(And in my very best Jeff Foxworthy voice) If you put 900 HP on your Pontoon Boat, you might be a Redneck.

A-Jay

Would have loved meeting that idiot back in the day. Looked like less than 6 inches of freeboard at the stern. That's a death trap. At that speed there would be little to recover after an accident, hitting the water that fast is like hitting concrete, except you'll skip flip break allot of bones, maybe lose limbs.

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Would have loved meeting that idiot back in the day. Looked like less than 6 inches of freeboard at the stern. That's a death trap. At that speed there would be little to recover after an accident, hitting the water that fast is like hitting concrete, except you'll skip flip break allot of bones, maybe lose limbs.

 

We would have had to "Catch" him  . . . . .  at the dock.

 

I don't know about you but I didn't operate anything that could cover the length of a football field every 2 Seconds . . .

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay

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Well I don't care what kind of boat your in they all make a wake.   Whether I'm in my dads 14ft duracraft or my bass boat I slow down to almost an idol when passing a boat that is sitting still.  Its inconsiderate and ticks me off when i'm fishing and people go flying by and I have to sit there and about have whiplash because they are to worried about going fast and not caring if just maybe that person is in a bad position and could go flying out of their boat.  It won't hurt people to slow down for 10 seconds. 

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We would have had to "Catch" him . . . . . at the dock.

I don't know about you but I didn't operate anything that could cover the length of a football field every 2 Seconds . . .

:eyebrows:

A-Jay

Yeah you're right, let's see the inland buoy tender I was on had a water blistering speed of 7 knots, good ol' USCGC Blackberry. But not all were that slow, ever stationed in the 7th district?? We had confiscated cigarette boats, but not even our go fasts went that fast tho, but helos. That's the ticket for this, just call in air support. A dolphin sweeping in and hovering in their path usually did the trick. I loved the resources we had there, it was so different from the rest of my career. That was the Reagan/Bush era and the start of the zero tolerance policy that the press coined the war on drugs.

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Yeah you're right, let's see the inland buoy tender I was on had a water blistering speed of 7 knots, good ol' USCGC Blackberry. But not all were that slow, ever stationed in the 7th district?? We had confiscated cigarette boats, but not even our go fasts went that fast tho, but helos. That's the ticket for this, just call in air support. A dolphin sweeping in and hovering in their path usually did the trick. I loved the resources we had there, it was so different from the rest of my career. That was the Reagan/Bush era and the start of the zero tolerance policy that the press coined the war on drugs.

Yup, we ran Op's in Panama,( no you won't read it on the Internet, lol,) yea the invasion of panama is readable and well known, but we were there well before that.. Running A6 bombers into the jungle taking out coca ( cocaine ) processing sites.. Covert stuff and I dare say honorable work.. I was pleased when I heard MN was on his way to the NAS Jax brig. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega

Sounds like we shared a common duty at least on the "war on drugs" issue..

0 Tolerance began after the aircraft incident on board my ship, CVN-68 ( Nimitz )

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^^ I say my Ship, out of the great fondness that I have for her.. I been on 6 carriers, but I spent one year on her going after bad guys, lol

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