I think you're right. They live a very humble life, maybe working in a cafe or even as a cashier at Walmart. They could hit the big stage and make millions but because they feel that fishing is a place for them to escape and find peace they wouldn't dare ruin the purity of that by making a name as a pro with all of the annoying sponsors, tv shows, tournament appearances, large pay checks...why would anyone do that when they can stay home eating tv dinners and watching A River Runs Through It on VHS.

While I sense your sarcasm you do bring up a good point.  A reason a lot of people don't do those tournaments is that they can't afford to take a week off of work to learn the lake like these pros do. What they don't show you is that these guys get 30 to 40hrs on the lake before the tournament. Scott Martin FLW angler of the year fished 6 tournaments that's around 240hrs of vacation time who can afford that? That doesn't even include the cost of towing a boat all over creation, hotel costs, and boat maintenance. Yes I do know that they have sponsorships to offset some of the cost but acquiring the right type of those is a whole different issue hardly related at all to bass fishing.  

While I sense your sarcasm you do bring up a good point.  A reason a lot of people don't do those tournaments is that they can't afford to take a week off of work to learn the lake like these pros do. What they don't show you is that these guys get 30 to 40hrs on the lake before the tournament. Scott Martin FLW angler of the year fished 6 tournaments that's around 240hrs of vacation time who can afford that? That doesn't even include the cost of towing a boat all over creation, hotel costs, and boat maintenance. Yes I do know that they have sponsorships to offset some of the cost but acquiring the right type of those is a whole different issue hardly related at all to bass fishing.  

 

Yeah, time on the water is key too which leads back to more experience and being able to adapt when things are tough. When you have those little golden nuggets stashed away you can change the game faster than someone who might slay the fish on their home waters when it's great but not so much when it's tough. 

 

You also brought up something that I hadn't thought of that's a big factor, the cost and the time. Not that it's easy for any pro just starting or even someone who is established on the tour but the investment is massive. If you can afford to put the time in and take the time to fish a lake you're going to have a leg up on those guys just scraping to get from one tournament to the next and working a job to support a family. I know a guy here in Roanoke that fished the tour and we've had a lot of discussions about what it takes. He was working full time and fished the Bassmasters tour for a short while. It was extremely tough, period. He's a darn good fisherman and much better than me and he struggled on the tour against these guys. Talking to him made me that much more aware of how amazing these top guys are or just the guys that consistently cash. Even the guys who don't cash are most all great fisherman at the very least. If you're in the top 50 you are really doing something in my opinion. So hard. The guy I know finished 70th once and that was his best result. I admire him and respect him tremendously for his accomplishments that are far greater than any in fishing I'll ever have. But man it's TOUGH stuff boys!

Murph13 ,  KVD is probably better than you at every aspect of the game but if you can locate and catch fish then  there are days you will smoke him . Some people just dont have that confidence . Theres a multitude of amateur anglers with great  instincts and mind set   . On any given day they can catch a big limit , at least they believe they can . 

A-Jay

Hehe.. Clearly we are approaching wintertime.

Hehe.. Clearly we are approaching wintertime.

 

I Refuse to even acknowledge that stuff right there . . . .

 

 

A-Jay

Murph13 , KVD is probably better than you at every aspect of the game but if you can locate and catch fish then there are days you will smoke him . Some people just dont have that confidence . Theres a multitude of amateur anglers with great instincts and mind set . On any given day they can catch a big limit , at least they believe they can .

I do not think I am a better fisherman than kvd. The question was could you beat kvd the fact of the matter is fishing is not like bball there is no chance of beating LBJ in one on one in 100 games. I talked to a guy who fished a tourney with a man that did nothing but sit in the back of the boat drifting senkos and chain smoking ciggs caught 20lbs of bass had the best coangler weight and boater weight. I'm not going to say I would never ever stand a chance or that I would beat him regularly but very occasionally I would/could get him.

I meant to say very rarly on occasion not very occasionally

For whatever reason it won't let me edit that post

I believe Mike Tyson said it best....Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

 

 

While not boxing, I think you can draw the parallels.

Could You Beat Kvd 1 Vs 1 ?

 

Maybe, but only if I could add one of these to my tackle box . . .

 

But even then it would still probably be pretty close.

 

A-Jay

 

I think he would beat me even if I got to fish for 2 days and he only got 4 hours.

I do not think I am a better fisherman than kvd. The question was could you beat kvd the fact of the matter is fishing is not like bball there is no chance of beating LBJ in one on one in 100 games. I talked to a guy who fished a tourney with a man that did nothing but sit in the back of the boat drifting senkos and chain smoking ciggs caught 20lbs of bass had the best coangler weight and boater weight. I'm not going to say I would never ever stand a chance or that I would beat him regularly but very occasionally I would/could get him.

I didnt mean that you thought you were better . No one is better . He'd smoke us  in AOY .  But if amateurs didnt have a chance against pros then there would be no new pros . All pros were once amateurs  . 

 

I bested a pro angler " one"  tournament. He has since qualified for several classics . After the weigh in he sought me  out and quizzed me .  I thought that was cool . 

I didnt mean that you thought you were better . No one is better . He'd smoke us  in AOY .  But if amateurs didnt have a chance against pros then there would be no new pros . All pros were once amateurs  . 

 

I bested a pro angler " one"  tournament. He has since qualified for several classics . After the weigh in he sought me  out and quizzed me .  I thought that was cool . 

I agree with what you posted I just didn't read it correctly when I responded I read it afterwards but didn't want to retract what I said since there had already been replies.

The way I see it... Fishing is a skill. That is proven by those who can continuously make a living fishing. However, fishing is part game of chance because there ar elements outside of a persons control that constitute luck. I believe the skill of an angler can reduce the element of luck but not totally negate it. I'm going somewhere witht this... Logically speaking... Yes it could happen and the probability is very low.

Yep. Winter is just around the corner.

Is the cheap rod and reel a pink Barbie outfit?

Could You Beat Kvd 1 Vs 1 ?

Maybe, but only if I could add one of these to my tackle box . . .

But even then it would still probably be pretty close.

A-Jay

KVD Equalier tool.jpg

Hmm, you just gave me a ideal for the ex-wife, lol

I think you're right. They live a very humble life, maybe working in a cafe or even as a cashier at Walmart. They could hit the big stage and make millions but because they feel that fishing is a place for them to escape and find peace they wouldn't dare ruin the purity of that by making a name as a pro with all of the annoying sponsors, tv shows, tournament appearances, large pay checks...why would anyone do that when they can stay home eating tv dinners and watching A River Runs Through It on VHS.

 

I don't know if this is arrogance or ignorance.

 

How about engineers?  CEOs?  Doctors?

 

Some simply don't have an overwhelming desire to compete.

 

Something we learned in martial arts:  No matter how good one is, there is always someone better.

 

Josh

Absolutely not. That man is dangerous. He is where he is because of his skill set and years of experience on the water,the two of which makes him a force to be reckoned with. Any advantage relative to the equipment would be far overshadowed by his skill, and he would kick my butt all day long. Change the game to a spinster with 2lb test line and now you got yourself a fairer competition in my mind. You know he's gonna catch him, but can he now play those fish correctly and land them. 

 

Baitmonkey, is that really you?

Ill even do one better.we both fish for a month he does his thing traveling the country.i do mine we see who catches the most bass plus lunker and weight total for 1 month.this is the kicker i have 20 farm ponds within 20 minutes of each other i can fish all day and night.he can too BUT he may have to drive a day to limit out to keep up.truth is he does have unlimited resources to FISH but catching fish is what separates all the variables,he does what he is best at and i do what im best at.he will have to rest i wont

Is the cheap rod and reel a pink Barbie outfit?

No, that's Scott Martin.

Does KVD have arms and or fingers in this scenario?

 

In either case probably not...

Who the heck is KVD?

Who the heck is KVD?

 

Jean-Claude's little brother..?

He seems like an ok guy. What are we fishing for?

Fishing challenge, ill put up one of my wife Italian fresh made pasta, fresh meatballs, sausage, fresh made bread,

You put up two dinners at a seafood lobster / fish house.

No boat

No electronics

From shore at my hot spot for four hours or who hits a 6 bass limit first. Catch any other fish but a bass it's minus one point.

We split the fishing area in half. In two hours we switch halves.

I'd rather fish up against the Irish godfather Charlie Moore in mass. Than fish with KVD. Me the real godfather up against the imposter.

They use there rods I use mine.

I'm the pro shore bass fisherman. Lol sounds good. I'm just a knucklehead who loves to fish.