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I just received a new Megabass Orocho X4 F3-610X4S Aarons Martin Limited, 6'10". It is a finesse spinning rod for 1/16 - 1/2 oz baits. Fishing from shore I plan to use finesse tactics with worms, jigs, in-line spinners etc, mostly up to 1/4 oz, on occasion up to 3/8.

 

I have a couple question on reel selection size, I plan to use 4 and/or 6 lb flouro.  Would a 1000, 2000, 2500 or 3000 be best? How important is "line take-up per turn"? Is more always better? 

 

Also, of the three below I am looking at do you have recommendations:

 

Shimano Stradic FK

 

Shimano Ci4

 

Lews Team Pro Speed Spin

 

Thanks

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I'm a huge fan of the 1000 Shimano reels.

The Stradic FK sounds like an awesome 

upgrade.

 

I've not found a species that I couldn't 

handle with the 1000 size; however, you'd 

be fine with the 2500, as well.

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The Megabass Orocho X4 F3-610X4S is a high quality stick priced in the "Very Sweet" bracket.

 

I'd hang nothing less than a Shimano Stradic CI4+ Spinning Reels (STCI41000FAML)

 

And the Shimano Stella FI (STL2500HGSFI) would be even better.

 

A-Jay

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The Megabass Orocho X4 F3-610X4S is a high quality stick priced in the "Very Sweet" bracket.

 

I'd hang nothing less than a Shimano Stradic CI4+ Spinning Reels (STCI41000FAML)

 

And the Shimano Stella FI (STL2500HGSFI) would be even better.

 

A-Jay

 

I am leaning towards the Ci4 mainly because I want a lightweight reel on it and at 6 oz for 1000 and 6.8 oz for the 2500 they are almost lightest available. I tried it out today with a 9 oz basic reel and the balance was way off. 

 

Using 4 or 6 lb flouro will the 1000 have any increase in line twist or reduced casting distance?  Whats the practice difference between the two sizes?

 

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I would look for a stradic fj 2500 on clearance.

 K3bass, the stride fj 1000 at 6.8 oz could be good but if I go with the 2500 it will get heavy at 8.3 ounces, which is starting to push the 4 oz rod.

 

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I am leaning towards the Ci4 mainly because I want a lightweight reel on it and at 6 oz for 1000 and 6.8 oz for the 2500 they are almost lightest available. I tried it out today with a 9 oz basic reel and the balance was way off. 

 

Using 4 or 6 lb flouro will the 1000 have any increase in line twist or reduced casting distance?  Whats the practice difference between the two sizes?

 

Thanks

 

Line twists with spinning reels is part of the deal but you can reduce them by doing a one thing ROUTINELY.

 

After EVERY cast, use your hand to close the bail before the retrieve INSTEAD of the simply reeling and allowing the reel to trip the bail back itself. 

 

A-Jay

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K3bass, the stride fj 1000 at 6.8 oz could be good but if I go with the 2500 it will get heavy at 8.3 ounces, which is starting to push the 4 oz rod.

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An 8.3 ounce spinning reel will get heavy? Geez.

I have one on a 7' ml avid which is under 4 ounces and it doesn't feel heavy and balances perfectly.

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I still don't understand the reasoning behind using a 1000 size reel. You have less cranking power, less line capacity, a smaller diameter spool which decreases your casting distance and creates more line twist, decreased retrieve rate, and a less powerful drag. If you MUST have a lighter reel then I would look for a ci4+ 2500 or jdm Daiwa luvias.

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I still don't understand the reasoning behind using a 1000 size reel. You have less cranking power, less line capacity, a smaller diameter spool which decreases your casting distance and creates more line twist, decreased retrieve rate, and a less powerful drag. If you MUST have a lighter reel then I would look for a ci4+ 2500 or jdm Daiwa luvias.

Completely agree. If you want the lightest then go with the CI4+ 2500. I recently picked up a Stradic FK 2500 and have to admit it is a pretty sweet reel. 

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I still don't understand the reasoning behind using a 1000 size reel. You have less cranking power, less line capacity, a smaller diameter spool which decreases your casting distance and creates more line twist, decreased retrieve rate, and a less powerful drag. If you MUST have a lighter reel then I would look for a ci4+ 2500 or jdm Daiwa luvias.

i've been using 1000 size stradics for years that have haphazardly hauled in 25+# catfish and carp on 6-10# braid and/or 7# fluoro in both deep and shallow water. I prefer the small, compact size on 6'8-7'1 ML rods. Drag has never given out or been an issue for that matte. i don't have line twist and unless i was wanting to cast a "country mile" for no reason, a 1000 size spinning reel will cast plenty far. A 1000 size stradic is well beyond adequate for bass fishing, 

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i've been using 1000 size stradics for years that have haphazardly hauled in 25+# catfish and carp on 6-10# braid and/or 7# fluoro in both deep and shallow water. I prefer the small, compact size on 6'8-7'1 ML rods. Drag has never given out or been an issue for that matte. i don't have line twist and unless i was wanting to cast a "country mile" for no reason, a 1000 size spinning reel will cast plenty far. A 1000 size stradic is well beyond adequate for bass fishing,

I'm not saying you can't land a big fish with it. I just don't see any advantages of using a 1000 size reel.

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The difference between the Shimano 1000 and 2500 is the spool diameter, larger diameter spool delivers less line twist, both sizes have excellent gearing and drag systems. If weight is the driver go with the Ci4 2500.

Tom

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The difference between the Shimano 1000 and 2500 is the spool diameter, larger diameter spool delivers less line twist, both sizes have excellent gearing and drag systems. If weight is the driver go with the Ci4 2500.

Tom

There's more of a difference etween the 1000 and 2500 than spool diameter. The whole reel is smaller.

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I have 1000, 2000, and 2500 Shimano Stradics.  If I were setting it up I'd be going for the 2500 but if you are uncertain why not take the rod to a store that sells them and hang them on it so you can see for yourself which one you want to use.

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I would take your rod to a local tackle store and put some reels on there to see what balances the rod. To me weight means nothing and balance means everything. Also with Shimano the 2500 and 3000 are the same reel with different spools. Since I back my reels I will always go with a 3000 because I have never felt that having more line is a bad thing even though with bass its not really needed.

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I still don't understand the reasoning behind using a 1000 size reel. You have less cranking power, less line capacity, a smaller diameter spool which decreases your casting distance and creates more line twist, decreased retrieve rate, and a less powerful drag. If you MUST have a lighter reel then I would look for a ci4+ 2500 or jdm Daiwa luvias.

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There's more of a difference etween the 1000 and 2500 than spool diameter. The whole reel is smaller.

 

Some of us happen to like smaller reels.

 

I've caught too many bass to count in sticks,

under docks, in thick grass, in stumps, etc.

 

I've not found a bass I couldn't handle with

my Stradic 1000 reels. Love 'em, prefer them

plain and simple. Never had an issue with 

drag that applying my palm to the spool couldn't 

help with.

 

I've got a 2500 FJ on order, but if the 1000 was

available at time of purchase, that's what I would

have bought.

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There's more of a difference etween the 1000 and 2500 than spool diameter. The whole reel is smaller.

That isn't my point, I own and use Stratic 1000 reels, wonderful reels. For finesse bass fishing the 2500 larger diameter spool creates less line twist the 1000 series. The Ci4 2500 is light weight and has a larger spool diameter that matches the OP's rod perfectly.

Tom

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That isn't my point, I own and use Stratic 1000 reels, wonderful reels. For finesse bass fishing the 2500 larger diameter spool creates less line twist the 1000 series. The Ci4 2500 is light weight and has a larger spool diameter that matches the OP's rod perfectly.

Tom

I agree 100 percent. A larger diameter spool is also more beneficial when using fluorocarbon.

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Great info and healthy debate, I am leaning towards Stradic Ci4 in 2500 just because it will give a little more versatility over the 1000. I'll call around this week and see if local shop has them in stock to try on rod. With Black Friday coming up I will probably wait but dealer I bought rod from, if he has it in stock, will give me 20% off.

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I just received a new Megabass Orocho X4 F3-610X4S Aarons Martin Limited, 6'10". It is a finesse spinning rod for 1/16 - 1/2 oz baits. Fishing from shore I plan to use finesse tactics with worms, jigs, in-line spinners etc, mostly up to 1/4 oz, on occasion up to 3/8.

nice rod! i have the orochi XX F3-611XXS which has almost identical specs. mine weighs 4.1 ounces and i'd guess yours weighs between 3.9 to 4.0 ounces.

 

I have a couple question on reel selection size, I plan to use 4 and/or 6 lb flouro.  Would a 1000, 2000, 2500 or 3000 be best? How important is "line take-up per turn"? Is more always better?

for me, a 2000-size daiwa or a 2500-size shimano would be the best bets on your rod. you don't want a reel that is too light as that may not balance too well on the rod. a few years ago, i thought 'lighter is better' and bought a pflueger patriarch XT 9530X that weighed 6.3 ounces and promptly gave myself a severe case of tennis elbow that affected me for months. i personally like reels around 8.5-ounces for all the medium-light spinning rods i have.

 

as for inches per turn (IPT), whether more is better depends on how you fish. for bottom-contact and slack line techniques such as dropshotting, wacky rigging and texas rigging, more is definitely better as you can take up slack quickly to set the hook or catch up to the fish. for moving bait techniques such as spinners and cranks, a lower-geared reel offers less resistance while you're reeling and may allow you to fish at a more comfortable pace without "overworking" our lure. either way, just keep in mind that IPT is typically much higher for spinning reels than casting reels. for example, a 6-to-1 ratio casting reel typically brings in 24-26 IPT but a 6-to-1 2500-size spinning reel will bring in 35 IPT.

 
the smaller reels have smaller spools which, if you're not using braid, will give your fishing line tighter coils and less casting distance and a higher propensity for twisting. they also have small drag discs for less powerful drags.
 

Also, of the three below I am looking at do you have recommendations:

Shimano Stradic FK

Shimano Ci4

Lews Team Pro Speed Spin

i'd opt for the stradic FK in 2500 for the balance, the feel of the body (i'm not a fan of the way Ci4 feels) and the cosmetics. YMMV

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