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Today I bought a 7'6" med-heavy  bass pro extreme rod on sale and I'm looking for a good reel for it. I would like input on these reels. Here are some reels I've been looking at feel free to add some others.

- Abu Garcia Orra sx

-Daiwa fuego

- Shimano casitas 150

-Pflueger supreme

- Lews speed spool Mach 1

- Bass pro PQ

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I do know that you need a higher speed reel somewhere from 7.0:1 to 8.0:1

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A good drag you can "lockdown" and a high gear ratio.  That's what I look for. 

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I have a few Curado IHGs, a few Curado E7s, a Pinnacle Optima LTE, an Okuma Cerros 273, and a Pfluegar Supreme XT on my flipping/pitching rods, all of the do the job just fine. 

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Check out the new 2015 promax. Looks prettyslick. Heard lews makes a heavy duty reel. Revo sx is what I use. And I like it.

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The PQ is arguably the biggest bang for the buck in your list and comes in a variety of ratio and lefty-righty configurations. The PQ lews and Pflueger are all on the same platform. You don't need anything specialized. A sturdy frame, good drag (smooth and consistent more than lock down) left hand retrieve, comfortable size and fast ratio/ipt are my preferences. 

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Last season I bought a Diawa Tatula Tactical and it is a workhorse. I expect it to last a long time. Can still be had on TW for $135. Great deal on a reel that will probably outlast every reel on your list. It's a little on the heavier side but that hasn't bothered me as long as my rod is light and balanced overall. My two cents for what it's worth. 

 

JC

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I like the Revo SX but will be buying a Lews Tourney MB soon. The PQ is a great choice as well, dual breaking with an aluminum frame can't be beat at that price point.

Don't forget to get the highest ratio you can. It makes the job of pitching a bit easier.

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Im a lews guy. So that's what I have to suggest go with at least the 100 speed spool an id get a tournament mb. But even just the 100 Dolor speed spool will do they will stand up to anything you put them threw an be just fine in the end I haven't caught no giant bass on my speed spool. But it proved it self to me when it caught a 50+ pound soft shell turtle anot still works like brand new after thirty minutes of drag being pulled 

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On 12/30/2015 at 2:51 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

I have a few Curado IHGs, a few Curado E7s, a Pinnacle Optima LTE, an Okuma Cerros 273, and a Pfluegar Supreme XT on my flipping/pitching rods, all of the do the job just fine. 

I am currently looking at the Supreme. Likes? Any dislikes? 

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On 2015-12-30 at 9:38 PM, RedHeadAngler said:

Today I bought a 7'6" med-heavy  bass pro extreme rod on sale and I'm looking for a good reel for it. I would like input on these reels. Here are some reels I've been looking at feel free to add some others.

- Abu Garcia Orra sx

-Daiwa fuego

- Shimano casitas 150

-Pflueger supreme

- Lews speed spool Mach 1

- Bass pro PQ

At the moment my Flippin/Punchin rod is a BPS extreme 7'6" Heavy and for a reel I use a Daiwa Tatula Type R with 8.1 gear ratio.

I haven't had any issue with the reel - I've pulled in 40" Muskie with it.  Not a fan of the rod tho, at least for your application. I find that its pretty poor sensitivity wise..  Maybe the MH is better?!?

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I have a couple of the Orra SX and they are great reels with all types of line, especially braid. They also have 15 lb max drag, which is nice to have when pitching. I would definitely go with whatever the highest gear ratio they have in this real is, I would imagine a 7.0:1 or 7.1:1. The Lews would be another good pick. I haven't used the Mach 1, but I am impressed with the regular speed spools, and I would imagine that reel would be the same quality and allow you to use a higher gear ratio.

I think either one of these reels will work great for you. Hoper the helps

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I like the Daiwa Exceler in 7.3:1. I have had one on my flipping/pitching rod (and another matching 7.3:1 on my frog/chatterbait/swimjig rod) for 3 years now, and they been very reliable. They can be had NIB on a popular auction sight for $70 with free shipping. I have 3 Exceler's (the third is 6.3:1 on my topwater/jerkbait/senko rod) and a  Lexa 6.3:1 on my squarebill/lipless/mid depth cranking rod , and while not the lightest, most refined reels, they have stood up to my use/abuse. I liked them so much that I sold off all my Citica's, Curado's, and Revo's. I plan on buying one more in 7.3:1 for my finesse jig/light t-rig/bubba shot rod before next season.

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I use a PQ on my St Croix flippin rod for now. I chose it because at the time it was one of two reels I currently owned that had the all aluminum frame. Also it had the highest gear 7:1. Its dependability is pretty well known so even though the drag isn't the stoutest It does do the job. I fish for fun so it wont cost me $ if I lose a bigun. :)

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I have decided to replace my old 1980's flipping reel. It works fine for flipping, but for pitching it is not as fast off the reel as modern reels are.

But what I wanted to ask you guys about is braking.

My old reel only has a magnetic type of brake, but I am wondering how effective a centrifugal brake would be for pitching. I wonder if the spool spins fast enough for a centrifugal brake to engage and be as useful pitching as it is for casting.

I have some old spare reels I could use for flipping and pitching with one of them being a Bass Pro Johnny Morris carbonlite series 7:1 speed which has a spring loaded centrifugal braking system and I wonder if when I pitch with it if I would even get the spool to spin fast enough for a spring loaded brake system to engage and be useful?

The spool has to spin fast enough to cause the weight of the brake shoe to overcome the strength of the spring in holding it back from engaging.

Or, should I use a reel with centrifugal brakes that slide outwards on a shaft with no springs to hold the brake shoe back from engaging?

Here is an image of the Bass Pro Johnny Morris spool with spring loaded brake shoes:

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Here is a shimano spool with no springs holding back the brake shoes from engaging:

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It just seems to me the spring loaded brake shoes are not going to engage very well pitching because of the slower spool speed, but the non-spring centrifugal braking would engage, but is it enough to really be effective?

I am looking for some answers based on experience as I have never used a reel with centrifugal braking for pitching. And I am thinking I would like to maybe use a reel with a combination of both magnetic and centrifugal braking, but can I get a reel with both and also without the spring loaded brake shoes?

Presently in my old collection of reels I don't have one with this specific combination. If I  go with Bass Pro, I get spring loaded brake shoes, and if I go with curado I get non-spring loaded centrifugal braking only- no magnetic braking.

So I am presently sort of caught in the middle trying to figure out which way to go here and I am leaning towards magnetic braking along with non-spring loaded centrifugal braking if such a reel exists???

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I just hit on an idea I might just try out. What if I remove all six springs from the Johnny Morris spool and try and experiment with free moving brake shoes on the Johnny Morris reel? I could also experiment with a combination too like leave 3 springs in and remove 3.

My theory is for slower spool rotation speeds pitching, that the springs disengage the brake shoe sooner than non spring loaded brake shoes.

This way I can use what I already have on the shelf rather than buy yet another reel... but if anyone knows of such a reel please post it!

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Shimano Aldebaran 51HG 7.4:1 $271.00

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12 hours ago, FloridaFishinFool said:

I have decided to replace my old 1980's flipping reel. It works fine for flipping, but for pitching it is not as fast off the reel as modern reels are.

But what I wanted to ask you guys about is braking.

My old reel only has a magnetic type of brake, but I am wondering how effective a centrifugal brake would be for pitching. I wonder if the spool spins fast enough for a centrifugal brake to engage and be as useful pitching as it is for casting.

I have some old spare reels I could use for flipping and pitching with one of them being a Bass Pro Johnny Morris carbonlite series 7:1 speed which has a spring loaded centrifugal braking system and I wonder if when I pitch with it if I would even get the spool to spin fast enough for a spring loaded brake system to engage and be useful?

The spool has to spin fast enough to cause the weight of the brake shoe to overcome the strength of the spring in holding it back from engaging.

Or, should I use a reel with centrifugal brakes that slide outwards on a shaft with no springs to hold the brake shoe back from engaging?

Here is an image of the Bass Pro Johnny Morris spool with spring loaded brake shoes:

db6a1721-0b6f-4600-b0d3-88a6b96d2c1c_zps

Here is a shimano spool with no springs holding back the brake shoes from engaging:

4327a91d-274c-4313-bf66-4312e6aee99d_zps

It just seems to me the spring loaded brake shoes are not going to engage very well pitching because of the slower spool speed, but the non-spring centrifugal braking would engage, but is it enough to really be effective?

I am looking for some answers based on experience as I have never used a reel with centrifugal braking for pitching. And I am thinking I would like to maybe use a reel with a combination of both magnetic and centrifugal braking, but can I get a reel with both and also without the spring loaded brake shoes?

Presently in my old collection of reels I don't have one with this specific combination. If I  go with Bass Pro, I get spring loaded brake shoes, and if I go with curado I get non-spring loaded centrifugal braking only- no magnetic braking.

So I am presently sort of caught in the middle trying to figure out which way to go here and I am leaning towards magnetic braking along with non-spring loaded centrifugal braking if such a reel exists???

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I just hit on an idea I might just try out. What if I remove all six springs from the Johnny Morris spool and try and experiment with free moving brake shoes on the Johnny Morris reel? I could also experiment with a combination too like leave 3 springs in and remove 3.

My theory is for slower spool rotation speeds pitching, that the springs disengage the brake shoe sooner than non spring loaded brake shoes.

This way I can use what I already have on the shelf rather than buy yet another reel... but if anyone knows of such a reel please post it!

I have tried it with a similar reel (rick clunn bps) no great noticeable difference.  Keep bearings clean lightly oiled loose tension brake two pins on and no magnetics and its the best I did as far as smooth pitching with a similar reel. Try it and see maybe you'll have better results. Also good line helps and insure its wound under tension.  Occasionally cast farther after pitching to get good even line lay and tension. 

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The Casitas seems like it could be a good light weight pitching reel. Its new so its untested.  It has graphite composite frame and side plates so it may not stand up to heavy duty pitching applications but its lower line capacity and overall design looks like a good cheap pitching reel. Lake fork guy(youtube) does a decent review.  

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On 12/31/2015 at 6:43 AM, Lendiesel22 said:

I am currently looking at the Supreme. Likes? Any dislikes? 

Really like it so far. Fits my hand very nicely, handle is great, casting distance is great and smooth, easy to setup, and the reel looks nice. I've been a big fan of their spinning reels for several years so I figured it was time to try a casting reel. Wouldn't be surprised if I ended up with a few more. 

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