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I am having trouble with a couple Shimano Sedonas, and lately a Shimano Sahara that is only 2 months old... Was out fishing, the reel working great, and all of a sudden, the reel starts getting slightly harder to reel, especially after stopping the handle, and making a grinding noise... The Sedonas did the same thing after I cleaned them both... Don't know if this is the gears, or a little washer I read about? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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My guess is that there's dirt you missed in your gears or you chipped a gear tooth.

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had one do something similar to me not too long ago.  sent it to Mike at DVT and found it to be missing a friction ring??

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Ok, so out of curiosity, I went outside to try my Sahara again, and there was no problem this time, so must have been trash on that one, but the Sedonas have both been doing it since I cleaned them... Are these worth sending off to be cleaned\ repaired, they cost $60...

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This appears to be the binding issue found in a lot of Shimanos low to mid level spinning reels. To be honest for parts and labor plus shipping you could probably just save for something nicer. I had it happen in one of mine and it went to Shimano for service work and is perfect now. 

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Yes, I believe that's what it is, I would love to know what causes this binding issue... I have read about this friction ring, but I don't believe these lower price reels have that ring, so I am stumped for now...

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The worst thing about this is Shimano themselves can't (or won't) even tell you the problem. Same went for the gooey knobs

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The nut that holds the whole bail assembly probably needs to be backed off a hair.  Too loose and the rotor wobbles.  Too tight and it makes the retrieve stiff(pretty common) I might have the terms wrong but its the hex nut you loosen to pull the entire lid or bail assembly off. Following the shaft the spool is on down its that hex nut which is usually kept in place also with a small screw.  It is common to overtighten when putting back together.  The difference between too tight and too loose is very small. The srew against it hold it in place. If too tight after using it they might get looser.  That explains why the reel operated good again.  Just mess with the tightness of that hex screw so it isn't too loose allowing the rotor to wiggle then put the little screw back in place holding the hex nut position.  

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I didn't touch the rotor nut on that reel, it is basically brand new... It was grinding, now it isn't... But the weird thing about the older reels is at first they work done, then after about five mins of fishing, they start to lock up, and it's like the reel handle gets harder and harder to start turning... And I did go back today and loosen that rotor nut to make sure that wasn't the problem, and after five mins in the driveway, the problem was back again...

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Shimano spinning reels are notorious for binding problems, nothing new. My suggestion is get rid of them and get a daiwa or pflueger. If you want a shimano that doesn't bind get a stradic or above. 

Loosening the nut that holds the rotor will make no difference. Over tightening it won't cause any issues either, other than possibly stripping out the threads on the worm gear. 

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Ive had sahara's, sedona's and spirex's do it on warm humid days so badly that they are pretty much unuseable.

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31 minutes ago, 1BADAIR said:

Ive had sahara's, sedona's and spirex's do it on warm humid days so badly that they are pretty much unuseable.

Yep, and cold days, wet days, snowy days....

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On Friday, January 01, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Justin Donaldson said:

I didn't touch the rotor nut on that reel, it is basically brand new... It was grinding, now it isn't... But the weird thing about the older reels is at first they work done, then after about five mins of fishing, they start to lock up, and it's like the reel handle gets harder and harder to start turning... And I did go back today and loosen that rotor nut to make sure that wasn't the problem, and after five mins in the driveway, the problem was back again...

OK.  I had a pfleuger and a cabelas that worked that way(the rotor nut too tight) your reels may be different.  Good luck sorry I couldn't help. 

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On 12/30/2015 at 6:44 PM, kickerfish1 said:

This appears to be the binding issue found in a lot of Shimanos low to mid level spinning reels. 

   The Shimano Sahara is not a low/mid level spinning reel.  I have a couple of them and I love them.  They are solid and work great.  Yeah, they are around $70-$80 dollars but they perform great for me.  

 

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The only times my Sedona used to bind up was when I went canoe fishing and got it wet.  After it dries out, it is fine again.  I don't know exactly where the fault lies but frankly, that's a fault I can do without and I've since moved on to other spinning reels.  Dry day?  No problems.     

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12 hours ago, hoosierbass07 said:

   The Shimano Sahara is not a low/mid level spinning reel.  I have a couple of them and I love them.  They are solid and work great.  Yeah, they are around $70-$80 dollars but they perform great for me.  

Umm yes they are. Shimanos lowest priced spinning reel is $25. Their highest is over $700. The term "budget friendly" generally refers to sub $100 rods and reels. The Sahara and Sedona are absolutely low to possibly mid levels reels regardless of how you think they perform. It simple economics and price distribution. 

 

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3 hours ago, hoosierbass07 said:

   The Shimano Sahara is not a low/mid level spinning reel. 

 

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In the world of Shimano.. absolutely low budget.  

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On 12/30/2015 at 2:37 PM, Justin Donaldson said:

The Sedonas did the same thing after I cleaned them both... Don't know if this is the gears, or a little washer I read about? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

  Your trouble started after you cleaned them?  Are you cleaning them too much or oiling them too much?  I never clean my Shimano reels because they just keep working and working.  And that Sahara is one of the best spinning reels in the world.  What kind of oil are you using?  If I remember right, reels only need very super light oil.  

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The problem is caused by the friction ring, if you contact Shimano they should be able to tell you what the problem is. The old river rats around my neck of the woods use to call them "Shimbindos" because if you were wading or fishing in the rain and it got wet, it would bind up and wouldn't work until is was completely dry.

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For the new ones especially, send to Shimano for a factory service.  You could probably call and explain the issue, and perhaps even get the servicing done for free.

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Thanks for the info, guys... The Sahara hasn't messed up again, and I have not cleaned at all... The Sedonas I have owned for 2-3 years, and they started binding after I cleaned them...

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