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To the bank, to the bank, Raider's going to the bank.

Superintendent on the job I just left, got in my face and cussed me the other day. He had been threatening everyone out there for the better part of a week. Anything you did/do he is gonna fire you eventually. We hadn't had a stewart set up yet, so he just constantly violated the contract and ran his mouth.

After conferring with some other brothers, we decided to handle it through the proper method and not use, "the old ways" also known as the "Chicago methods".

Anyway, I'm not getting into the specifics. I was dog cussed and fired, I was polite until the firing. I gave him a piece of my mind and told him where he can go. Then I went on my merry way. Well, ooooppps, I was terminated with no union representation, I also had my personal space violated and was cussed by managment(who isn't supposed to speak to me anyway). Well friends, Raider gets paid the duration of said job and can go work else where while still getting paid. All because I held my tongue and didn't shatter his jaw, for yelling at me. 

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So you get paid because of an * by your firing?

 

meh...

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So you get paid because of an * by your firing?

 

meh...

Nope.

I get paid, because management couldn't follow the rules. Nowhere does it state anyone has a right to get in your face and cuss you like a dog. It is also VERY clear in the contract that there is a chain of command. When the chains get skipped thats a violation. It also states that I have a right to representation, in case of disciplinary actions. Which was skipped over too. Therefore, the contractor is held to the penalties which are addressed in the contract.

This isn't some big surprise to the contractors. They know all this going into it. Most of them have been around for years and work all over the country. This is all common practice. The contract is there to protect them as well as us. It keeps them from getting sued by my attorney for violations of the NLR act.

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you should be commended for such restraint!

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if you do not have a steward set up yet, that seems like a pretty big loophole for him to address you, instead of going to the head of the union and trying to clarify with whom he should cuss out. Besides that...Raider, this is all part of a bigger problem..you get cussed out, your upset, rightfully, and now you expect money for getting cussed out? Find another job and close this chapter, trust me.

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3 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

if you do not have a steward set up yet, that seems like a pretty big loophole for him to address you, instead of going to the head of the union and trying to clarify with whom he should cuss out. Besides that...Raider, this is all part of a bigger problem..you get cussed out, your upset, rightfully, and now you expect money for getting cussed out? Find another job and close this chapter, trust me.

I don't want money. Money doesn't buy happieness. Granted it buys me lots of nice things. I have no desire for getting paid that way. I want HIS job. I want him to have to go hunt work like every other electrician. In no way do I want the companies money. That to me is akin to spilling coffee on my lap and the suing for getting burned. 

All I ask is for simple justice. An eye for an eye if you will...

2 hours ago, fishinfiend said:

Use your time wisely and try not to lay up on the couch and stuff your face incessantly. ;)

Should be back working tomorrow or Friday. If that falls through. Then Monday I will be in Kentucky working out of Louisville's hall. Louisville has tons of work right now. Paducah Kentucky has lots of work too.

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Get that money brother!

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Somehow i knew this thread wasn't going to be about bank fishing... and why bring chicago into it??? This is a nice peaceful city to raise your kids

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45 minutes ago, slonezp said:

Somehow i knew this thread wasn't going to be about bank fishing... and why bring chicago into it??? This is a nice peaceful city to raise your kids

Yea especially on the Southside. Just have a kevlar vest and bulletproof glass on your cars an home.

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Management isn't supposed to speak to you? I don't understand that. Is management supposed to ignore you like you're not even there,or what exactly does that mean? By some outlandish "rule" or agreement you pass each other on the job site but don't/won't/can't speak to one another?

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42 minutes ago, Buckeye Ron said:

Management isn't supposed to speak to you? I don't understand that. Is management supposed to ignore you like you're not even there,or what exactly does that mean? By some outlandish "rule" or agreement you pass each other on the job site but don't/won't/can't speak to one another?

I may be wrong but have a lot of experience in Union Jobs.  Management can speak to him however or whenever they want, his method for addressing this is by filling a grievance.  Management should not address Union members in matters of discipline without a steward present.  The exception to this rule is when a union member violates certain cardinal rules such as assaulting another person they can then be terminated on the spot with the right to still file a grievance if felt it was done outside the contract.    Should it be determined that the contract is violated the member is entitled to his position back and pay for the work he missed during the grievance process.    Happens all the time.

 

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On July 20, 2016 at 4:03 PM, lo n slo said:

you should be commended for such restraint!

 

Well now he's getting paid to fish sooooo...  Commendations are overrated anyways.  ;)

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I thought we were going bank fishing.

I was new on my job. My co worker was a wise azz and the bosses friend. The over head crane was 3" short on the lift to put a 400# sheave(pulley) on the elevator gear box. I told my co worker to unhook the crane and I'll pick it up and put it on. When I was done I was the talk of the place. No one ever bothered me.

My job before this the ones incharge would scream at everyone. My new boss tried it with me. I told him the door opens to the inside of this room and he'd never make it out. It got quiet fast.

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I thought you were going to the bank to settle things when someone pulled up and fished too close to your favorite spot! Congrats on staying composed when he didn't and being rewarded for doing so.

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