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describes in his "How to Cast a Baitcaster" video?  I've been fishing from shore the past three years except for when visiting relation in Florida.  Even though we fish from a boat there, i often am making long casts.  I rarely cast with the rod in front of me.  I'm not waving my arm as bad as Glenn depicted in the video, but I do hold the rod off to the side of my shoulder.  I also tip the rod further back and incorporate my forearm in the cast.  Generally I am not just casting with the wrist except for the rare occasions I want to make a short cast..

No offense to you Glenn.  If I fished from a boat that was controlled by me, then I might be casting your way more often.  I figure there has to be quite a few others casting the same way I do as some of us don't have a boat.  Or often fish from shore.

Which brings up another point.  How accurate are you at distance casting?  Even when practicing I am throwing pretty hard.  I find I can get closer to my target on a long cast than I can on a short cast simply because I make so many more long casts than short casts.  Most of my casting practice is done on a river, so I am targeting a moving object.

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I fish from a kayak most of the time and the majority of my casts are side arm and/or roll-casts or something in between.  I rarely am considering distance to be of great importance; however, if throwing deep cranks, or deep/heavy c-rigs (and sometimes lipless....just because I can :) ), I will often cast overhead and try to bomb it.  I just don't have confidence in feeling bites or getting hooksets on what I consider to be long casts.    

 

BTW, I have been working on backhand and one-handed casts, but my confidence is firmly and solely with two handed casting.

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I think there's a difference in casting to short target places, and honking it out there as far as possible. I think Glenn is talking about casting to shorter targets. Chances aren't good for getting a bait way out there if the rod is in front of you and your only going back to the front of your head while casting. Conversely, chances aren't good if you're hauling the rod way behind you to hit a target 25 feet away.

Casting a rod is like hitting a golf shot. A pitch to a target 20 yards away is vastly different than a shot that needs to go 200 yards. JMO of course.  

  

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5 minutes ago, Fun4Me said:

 

Casting a rod is like hitting a golf shot. A pitch to a target 20 yards away is vastly different than a shot that needs to go 200 yards. JMO of course.  

  

Back when I played at golf, the resulting two shots described, all too often ended up looking the same.

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39 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

BTW, I have been working on backhand and one-handed casts, but my confidence is firmly and solely with two handed casting.

I almost always cast 2-handed.  Very seldom with one.  Gives me more control.

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I use two handed cast that range from a wrist flip, to a chuck and duck bomb, and everything in between. 

Remember, that video is a fail safe starting point.  It's up to you to continue to practice, and develop your own "style."

And by practice, I mean make lots of fishing trips! :)

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6 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said:

I almost always cast 2-handed.  Very seldom with one.  Gives me more control.

No question.  However, from a yak, I all too often find myself casting back over my shoulder around a rod holder between two branches and up under a bush....at an angle that two hands just don't get me there.

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I pretty much only cast one handed and normally its sideways. Only use two hand overhead when trying to make a long cast

 

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39 minutes ago, Fun4Me said:

I think there's a difference in casting to short target places, and honking it out there as far as possible. I think Glenn is talking about casting to shorter targets. Chances aren't good for getting a bait way out there if the rod is in front of you and your only going back to the front of your head while casting. Conversely, chances aren't good if you're hauling the rod way behind you to hit a target 25 feet away.

Casting a rod is like hitting a golf shot. A pitch to a target 20 yards away is vastly different than a shot that needs to go 200 yards. JMO of course.  

  

I realize that.  However, my point was I, myself and me seldom are making short casts.  I feel like I'm not the only one often stretching their casts.  I can see where someone might think I was trying to start something.  Nope.  Just bored and making a couple comments.  Glenn's advice is good.  Just not something I personally can follow very often.  Figured there had to be others as well.  As Mr. Franco pointed out, "that video is a fail safe starting point".  I have a tendency to forget that.

I'm like Choporoz, I make quite a few side arm casts, but even then I'm shooting for distance.  Now if you want to see some arm action, I occasionally look like I'm winding up for an under-hand fast softball pitch the few times I am going all out for distance to see how far I can lob a lure.  That is very seldom.

Also like Choporoz...and I'm sure lots of others...I need to make a backhand cast on occasion.  Not something I practice very much, so it's not my most accurate cast.

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Heck, I cast using whatever method loads the rod properly while allowing me to put the lure where I want it.

I grew up with pistol grips and so will cast one-handed about a third of the time, maybe.

Josh

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I cast every way but backhand. I cant cast backhand .

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Get stuck on the back of a boat with a guy that works dock line like Mario Andretti, and you'll learn some weird casts, or be out of luck on targets!

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Glenn should answer this question.

Distance is relative and so is accuracy.

If your normal casting distance is about 25 yards or 75 feet Glenn's casting technique works great and you should be able to hit a pie plate size target consistantly.

Move the distance out to 35 yards or 105 feet a little more effort maybe needed with a lager backswing and hitting a basketball size hoop target would be accurate.

Going out beyond 45 to 50 yards requires faster forward rod speed with about the same backswing as the 35 yd cast and hitting a hula hoop size target is accurate enough.

My backswing is about st 45 degrees to one side of my right shoulder and about the same distance back to generate enough rod speed foreward to make long casts.

Tom

PS using a 8' swimbait rod and heavy swimbait you must keep an eye on where your fishing partner is standing if behind you!

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Guys, I appreciate y'all watching my videos.  It's really humbling for me.

The video is about hitting targets accurately with the proper presentation (e.g. a soft entry).  It stands to reason, a 50 yard cast does not fall under this category.  It's about short, pinpoint casts.

The video is also for folks that are learning to cast baitcasters, and want something more than just how to set up the reel.

If you want a tutorial on sidearm and back hand casts, I demonstrate and explain them in my Advanced Spinnerbait video.

 

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That's also a great video that shows the mechanics well. I remember really likening that one when it came out and referencing it to kayak fishing students. 

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Thanks for posting the Spinnerbait video.  Had forgotten all about it since it has been so long since watching it.  A spinnerbait is a lure I use a lot.  Very nice tips.

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If you learn a good consistent, compact casting stroke that uses your body and good timing more than your arm(s) and wrist, it's surprising how far you can get a lure with accuracy.  I gave up trying to wildly fling a baitcaster for distance.  Too often, that's just a recipe for disaster no matter how "expert" you think you have become.

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I definitely don't use my body, but I think that's more a function of years of fishing in a kayak while standing.  It carries over to fishing in a boat, for me too.

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17 hours ago, Glenn said:

Guys, I appreciate y'all watching my videos.  It's really humbling for me.

The video is about hitting targets accurately with the proper presentation (e.g. a soft entry).  It stands to reason, a 50 yard cast does not fall under this category.  It's about short, pinpoint casts.

The video is also for folks that are learning to cast baitcasters, and want something more than just how to set up the reel.

If you want a tutorial on sidearm and back hand casts, I demonstrate and explain them in my Advanced Spinnerbait video.

 

Excellent video. Thanks for re-posting that, I needed that! 

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