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There is a recent thread about selecting a spinning rod for small cranks...

I recently got a 7 ft Med Moderate for this very purpose, particularly small Rapalas:  floaters, the shallow shad rap (love that bait) etc.

Started off using it for small jigs and paddletails with braid, but contemplating switching reels and using cranks as planned.

If you use a similar moderate-action spinning rod for small-size cranking, what line do you like and why?

 

 

 

 

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I'm currently running 8lb Seaguar Senshi and it has done well. Any easy handling mono or copolymer works well. 

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Yo zuri hybrid 6 lb test.

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You might try 10-15lb braid with an 8lb flouro leader.

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I use 8# Nanofil on ML/Mod 8' Avid. Works very well with small bitsy minnows, nano cranks, mini fat raps, small in-line spinners. Why? Distance, line management, line twist doesnt effect it nearly as much as other lines save braid.

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10 lb. power pro. original.  small diameter, same as 2 lb. mono. cast's a mile use it on all my spinners. sometimes will use a clear mono leader if the water is gin clear. but most of the time no leader. works for me

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I have seriously thought about putting together a combo like this for small jerk baits. I know this is a bit off topic but what rods are you guys using for this purpose? On spinning gear I always go with braid main line and leaders as needed.

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22 minutes ago, PatrickKnight said:

I have seriously thought about putting together a combo like this for small jerk baits. I know this is a bit off topic but what rods are you guys using for this purpose? On spinning gear I always go with braid main line and leaders as needed.

For what it's worth I used a Tatula 7' MF spinning rod for my regular jerk bait fishing and it worked liked a dream until I tried throwing smaller size jerk baits like a size 8 Rapala on it; just too much rod in my opinion.  I'm going to be picking up the 7'1" MLXF Tatula which is built for lures from 1/16 - 3/8oz as I`m certain it will be more than capable in handling the smaller jerk baits.

Much like you I use braid main line and fluro leader on my jerk bait spinning outfit, and it works like a charm.

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15 hours ago, snake95 said:

There is a recent thread about selecting a spinning rod for small cranks...

I recently got a 7 ft Med Moderate for this very purpose, particularly small Rapalas:  floaters, the shallow shad rap (love that bait) etc.

Started off using it for small jigs and paddletails with braid, but contemplating switching reels and using cranks as planned.

If you use a similar moderate-action spinning rod for small-size cranking, what line do you like and why?

I have always used straight mono for any type of light crank or jerk bait fishing, usually in the 6lbs test range.  I found that Stren was always a good brand to use. 

This year I started using braid w/ a fluro leader for my larger sized jerk baits and it worked really well.  As per my post above, I'll be picking up a ML Tatula for use when it comes to smaller jerk and crank baits and think I might try some lighter 15lbs braid and a 6lbs fluro leader and see how that works next year when our bass season opens, and maybe even for walleye in the spring.

Cheers, and hope that this information helps.

Attila

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1 hour ago, PatrickKnight said:

I have seriously thought about putting together a combo like this for small jerk baits. I know this is a bit off topic but what rods are you guys using for this purpose? On spinning gear I always go with braid main line and leaders as needed.

The one I got recently is an Abu Garcia Volatile 7 ft MM.  I haven't really tried it much yet - wound up throwing mainly boxer head jigs with Kietech paddletails using braid w Yo Zuri 6 lb leader, Alberto knot.  Worked great for that, but I don't have a track record to speak of yet.  Besides, the main objective was to throw my lighter Rapalas, Rebels, Rouges, etc with it.

 

 

34 minutes ago, Attila said:

have always used straight mono for any type of light crank or jerk bait fishing, usually in the 6lbs test range.  I found that Stren was always a good brand to use. 

This year I started using braid w/ a fluro leader for my larger sized jerk baits and it worked really well. 

Thanks for the ideas.  Cool to see someone who fishes "cottage country" on here.  

I feel like I am fishing a rubber band when using Stren on long casts.  I guess that's not such a bad thing with treble hook lures, but man on those long casts I feel like half my battle is hauling on the line.  

I often have braid/floro on my spinning reels these days for fishing small plastics, so I will try that, along with some of the other suggestions.

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I like 6-8# mono or co-polymer.  I know most people prefer a braid, but I like how mono casts better than I do braid.  I seldom use a spinning rod these days, but want to start using mine more.  

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29 minutes ago, snake95 said:

Thanks for the ideas.  Cool to see someone who fishes "cottage country" on here.  

I feel like I am fishing a rubber band when using Stren on long casts.  I guess that's not such a bad thing with treble hook lures, but man on those long casts I feel like half my battle is hauling on the line.  

I often have braid/floro on my spinning reels these days for fishing small plastics, so I will try that, along with some of the other suggestions.

Yes, I'm one of the lucky ones who has some great lakes only about an hour away from me but the pressure that they receive during any given season has really made me change my approach in how I present lures to fish.

For what it's worth, long casts in clearer water are required and while it may feel like you're fishing with a rubber band I find that it's necessary especially if you're throwing treble hooked lures like crank or jerk baits or even smaller sized poppers (I'm a big Skitter Pop size 5 fan).

A final thought; most of my ML action rods have been 6'6" or shorter and with my new ML rod I'm going over the 7' mark which I think will help with my casting distance. My biggest worry is using braid w/ fluro as I've found that I get more tangles with light braid than with anything else. As a result of this, I'm going to be keeping a spool of Seaguar InvizX nearby to use if the tangles get out of hand.  I've found that InvizX has a lot of castability and a little more stretch than other flurocarbons which makes it act more like mono but with the clear advantage of being invisible under water.

Cheers, good thread.

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15 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Seaguar Senshi

Interesting, this wasn't even on my radar.  I might try it.

 

15 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Any easy handling mono or copolymer works well. 

Any chance you have compared Senshi to the Yo Zuri polymers, for this purpose?  Thanks, Bluebasser.

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Suffix tri+ 8lb in green

 

I'll go to 6lb flouro in gin clear water

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14 hours ago, snake95 said:

 

 

Any chance you have compared Senshi to the Yo Zuri polymers, for this purpose?  Thanks, Bluebasser.

Nope, I despise Yo-Zuri and have no plans of ever buying it again. 

Only other line I've tried with it was Gamma Copolymer and it performed very well also but is harder to get. 

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I never use braid on crankbaits for 3 important reasons:

  1. Braid is buoyant.  Therefore, the crankbait will have a hard time reaching is maximum depth potential.
  2. Braid doesn't stretch - you'll more apt to pull the tiny treble hooks out of his mouth, or possibly bend/straighten the hook.  With crankbaits, your rod needs to give, but so does your line.
  3. Braid, while abrasion resistant in vegetation, gets tore up on rocks - a common place for using crankbaits.  Fluorocarbon is also very abrasion resistant and is a better choice for rocky terrain.

For these reasons, it's one the few times I use straight fluorocarbon on my reel - no leaders.  I prefer 12lb for most crankin' situations.

Hope that helps!

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4 minutes ago, Glenn said:

For these reasons, it's one the few times I use straight fluorocarbon on my reel - no leaders.  I prefer 12lb for most crankin' situations.

Hope that helps!

Glenn, I'm not sure you read the full title of this topic. He asked for spinning gear. 

Are you really using 12# FC on a spinning reel?

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I have tried alot of lines over the years. I keep going back to Berkley Original or fused Fireline and add either a fluoro or P lne cxx leader when needed.. Another line to try is P Line Halo, but that line has some memory so never go above 8 pound on a 3000 sized spinning reel. I have one suggestion. I drop my filler spool in hot water just before spooling my reel it seems to help. I also add line conditioner while spooling. Then just give it a night and it just seems to play real nice.

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2 hours ago, fishballer06 said:

Glenn, I'm not sure you read the full title of this topic. He asked for spinning gear. 

Are you really using 12# FC on a spinning reel?

I see you caught my inference!  Well done!  :)

 

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For baits like shad rap 5 and original floaters I use a ML spinning rod with a 25 size reel and 10lb braid with a 10 foot long 8lb fluorocarbon leader 

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On 10/23/2016 at 9:18 AM, pawpaw said:

You might try 10-15lb braid with an 8lb flouro leader.

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