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The new shimano bantam has been released & according to Bantam1 feels like a conquest in a low profile design. Looks like shimano hit a home run with this one. 

 

 

http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=77478

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No PG version....  in that case i´m gonna pass on this one.

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Jelvas said:

No PG version....  in that case i´m gonna pass on this one.

 

 

 

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Yes there is JDM.......

Spec table

 

Part number Gear ratio Maximum drag force 
(kg)
Own weight 
(g)
Spool size 
(Diameter mm / width mm)
Nylon thread wound amount 
(lb - m)
Maximum winding length 
(cm / 1 turn of handle)
Handle length 
(mm)
Number of bearings 
BB / Roller
Main unit price (yen) Product code
MGL PG
RIGHT
5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
59 42 8/1 39,000 03855 5
MGL PG
LEFT
5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
59 42 8/1 39,000 03856 2
MGL RIGHT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
66 42 8/1 39,000 03853 1
MGL LEFT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
66 42 8/1 39,000 03854 8
MGL HG
RIGHT
7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
76 42 8/1 39,000 03857 9
MGL HG
LEFT
7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
76 42 8/1 39,000 03858 6
MGL XG
RIGHT
8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
86 45 8/1 39,000 03859 3
MGL XG
LEFT
8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
86 45 8/1 39,000 03860 9

* PG is a power gear specification, HG is a high gear specification, XG is an extra high gear specification.

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2 hours ago, Maico1 said:

Yes there is JDM.......

Spec table

 

Part number Gear ratio Maximum drag force 
(kg)
Own weight 
(g)
Spool size 
(Diameter mm / width mm)
Nylon thread wound amount 
(lb - m)
Maximum winding length 
(cm / 1 turn of handle)
Handle length 
(mm)
Number of bearings 
BB / Roller
Main unit price (yen) Product code
MGL PG
RIGHT
5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
59 42 8/1 39,000 03855 5
MGL PG
LEFT
5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
59 42 8/1 39,000 03856 2
MGL RIGHT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
66 42 8/1 39,000 03853 1
MGL LEFT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
66 42 8/1 39,000 03854 8
MGL HG
RIGHT
7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
76 42 8/1 39,000 03857 9
MGL HG
LEFT
7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
76 42 8/1 39,000 03858 6
MGL XG
RIGHT
8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
86 45 8/1 39,000 03859 3
MGL XG
LEFT
8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 
16-100
86 45 8/1 39,000 03860 9

* PG is a power gear specification, HG is a high gear specification, XG is an extra high gear specification.

 

This pi###s me of! Why not make all versions available worldwide is something i´ll never understand...

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I couldn't agree more. For a reel to MSRP at $350, I think they could have done magnesium. I am interested in the upgrades to the Stella. I can't wait to see these upgrades trickle into other models.

 

The new Micro Module II provides a new ideal gear design and gear teeth surface for amazing smoothness and nearly twice the strength of Shimano’s already unmatched gear durability.

X-Protect makes the new Stella up to five times more resistant to the long term damaging effects of water than the previous model, so every turn of the handle is sure to feel as good as new even after years of use.

 

17 hours ago, kschultz76 said:

Looks like an interesting reel. Would like to see a magnesium version for weight savings. 

 

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I will take one....asap

 

That PG model would be one awesome crankbait reel

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On 1/20/2018 at 1:24 PM, Stephen B said:

I couldn't agree more. For a reel to MSRP at $350, I think they could have done magnesium. I am interested in the upgrades to the Stella. I can't wait to see these upgrades trickle into other models.

 

The new Micro Module II provides a new ideal gear design and gear teeth surface for amazing smoothness and nearly twice the strength of Shimano’s already unmatched gear durability.

X-Protect makes the new Stella up to five times more resistant to the long term damaging effects of water than the previous model, so every turn of the handle is sure to feel as good as new even after years of use.

 

 

The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300.  The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7.  I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance.  To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium.  For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile.  And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands.  I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam.  Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels.

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^ all that, plus 7 oz. reels aren't for the limp wristed, I guess! :lol:

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1 hour ago, Big-Bass said:

The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300.  The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7.  I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance.  To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium.  For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile.  And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands.  I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam.  Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels.

While that all may be your opinion and maybe valid, I’d like to see this new frame construction and features in a magnesium package as well as the aluminum version. I would expect it to be priced higher, and maybe come to the next revision of the Metanium. For my needs and fishing style reels getting heavier doesn’t excite me. 

 

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

^ all that, plus 7 oz. reels aren't for the limp wristed, I guess! :lol:

Yep all of us who prefer lighter reels for various reasons are weak limp wristed, etc.  the fact is I had a wrist injury a whole lot years ago and in the past several years I’m having problems with that wrist. The reel close to 8 oz, an oz heavier then a Chronarch MGL or a Metanium in the higher gear ratios. Doesn’t seem like a lot of weight but it’s a difference you can feel. Not saying the reel won’t be amazing or a game changer. I’d just like to see a lighter version. 

 

I’ll add this, the design and construction look amazing and innovative, it is an exciting advancement. Also the weight is probably lower then you would expect for such a robust aluminum frame. Hopefully the design philosophy finds its way into other reels in the future. 

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I have shoulder and elbow issues.  Do a search for the two-handed cast thread.  Lots of good tips in there.  Just a few years ago, 8 oz. was considered light.

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Last one I purchased is 7.3 oz. and I still cain't get over how light it is. But I'm used to my old school bantam 200, 1000, and a Ambassador 5000c. 

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12 hours ago, Big-Bass said:

The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300.  The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7.  I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance.  To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium.  For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile.  And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands.  I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam.  Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels.

^this. The chronarchs and metanium cover the lightweight reel spectrum. Many people have said they wanted shimano to build an affordable, high performance reel like a tank; as they did with some of the reels of old. I think this caters to them. I'm looking forward to fishing one. 

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All I want is a shallow spool :)

 

But I'm sure HedgeHog studio will take care of that for me... 

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Another interesting factoid about this reel that hasn't been brought up here yet is the fact that the palm side no longer has a side plate. It is threaded directly into the body, giving the frame a much more rigid design than previous designs.

 

 

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Not just the palm plate, but the nose cone as well.  It really is constructed like their round reels.

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32 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Not just the palm plate, but the nose cone as well.  It really is constructed like their round reels.

 Can you say Conquest.....

 

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I've read all of this stuff but I still don't understand where this reel really fits in and what it's purpose would be.

 

It seems like Chronarch MGL or Metanium MGL.  I like shiny new things like everyone else but I don't get this one.

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1 hour ago, Burro said:

Why is shimano making theses reels so heavy? :blink:

What I said earlier:

 

The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300.  The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7.  I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance.  To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium.  For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile.  And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands.  I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam.  Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels.

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3 minutes ago, Big-Bass said:

What I said earlier:

 

The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300.  The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7.  I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance.  To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium.  For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile.  And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands.  I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam.  Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels.

I understand what your saying, it makes sense but I still would like to see this reel in the 7.4 range. 

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1 hour ago, Burro said:

I understand what your saying, it makes sense but I still would like to see this reel in the 7.4 range. 

It weighs 7.6oz.!

 

http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/products/fishing-reels/baitcast/bantam-mgl.html

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Personally I think this would be good on longer rods 7+feet, it will balance them out a bit better with the 

added weight of the reel.

 

This reel will be my go to for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits and small swimbaits...

 

Thinking GLX 893

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