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I’ve searched through the senko forum and I can’t seem to find the answer to this. If I missed it, please direct me towards it. 

 

What it conditions cause you to use wacky vs weightless senkos? I’ve had some pretty good days fishing weightless but never wacky. Might just be a confidence thing, but I’m trying to figure out the right conditions to throw the different baits I have and I’ve been having a hard time figuring them out for senkos. 

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I always go wacky if I can get away with it... if there is to much vegetation or wood/other cover then I go weightless t-rig.

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Wacky is where the hook is placed, nothing to do with being weighted or weightless.

Texas rigged is weedless hook in the nose end.

Nekko is a nail weight wacky rigged.

So what are you trying to ask??

Tom

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12 minutes ago, WRB said:

Wacky is where the hook is placed, nothing to do with being weighted or weightless.

Texas rigged is weedless hook in the nose end.

Nekko is a nail weight wacky rigged.

So what are you trying to ask??

Tom

When I said weightless I was referring to weightless t-rig. 

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If the cover allows it, I prefer wacky. If I am fishing a senko or any stick bait I get most of my bites when the bait is sinking. Senkos and many other stick baits have a very seductive wiggle when they fall. I find they still do this t-rigged but the way you have to rig them keeps one end a little stiffer than the other because of the hook, whereas with a wacky hook you get a single point on the worm that the hook goes through and that keeps the worm more flexible to wiggle and just gives you a little more action. Fishing around thick vegetation, or any thick cover that the worm is going to be sinking deep into and I need to get it back out, I go t-rigged for a more weedless presentation. 

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5 minutes ago, beginningfisherman said:

When I said weightless I was referring to weightless t-rig. 

I rarely fish a Senko that isn't wacky rigged, prefer floating worms T-rigged with a bead and bullet weight. If I did weightless T-rig a Senko it would be so it swam nose down slowly. It does the same thing with nose nail weight wacky hooked on slack line, so I don't rig a Senko weightless T-rig.

Tom

 

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I'm a fan of letting cover dictate. If I'm pitching it along a dock piling or tree, I wacky rig. If it's in weeds, T-rig, but the Neko is on my radar, just gotta grab a pack of #2 hooks next time I'm out. I have small nails to add weight to one end.

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Aaron Martens once mentioned fishing with two buddies from a boat. One guy was catching them better than Aaron and the other friend. Martens finally determined that his friend had wacky-rigged a worm with an ever-so-slight offset, not dead center. It moderated the drop rate from between a wacky rig and, say, a weightless T-Rig. That is what they wanted that day at that time.

 

So, I think of a wacky rig, on a weightless hook, Senko rigged "balanced" as being the slowest of all fall rates. And, the T-Rig version, also weightless, as being the fastest of the weightless presentations. And, you can make both of them faster by adding a weight, for sure. Senkos, and several others, will "shimmy" down wacky-rigged and that action often attracts fish. And, at least a fair number of bass anglers believe bass are attracted to baits that hold horizontal positions as they hold or fall through the water column.

 

You never really know how fish want it until you give it a go.

 

Brad

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Like those above...if I can due to vegetation I'll go wacky, if I can't then weightless t-rig. 

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I am still experimenting and learning with senkos.

 

However, I have been doing very well on them in the past couple of years.

 

I buck the apparent trend: I throw them weightless, texposed 95% of the time, casting to targets.

 

My initial motivation was that I hated getting snagged. I've stuck with it because it works too well for me to change to wacky as my default.

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T-Rig casts a lot better skipping under docks but I've always caught way more fish wacky rigging it. 

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I usually start off with a weightless t-rig.  If that doesn't produce I will switch over to wacky to see how that works.

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I've tried wacky off and on for years . I think I've caught 2 fish ever that way. On the other hand, I generally SLAY the fish on a weightless t-rigged senko.

Maybe it's because I primarily fish weedy lakes.

But even in clear areas I dont get wacky bites:annoyed1:

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For me prespawn to spawn t-rigged has caught me my better fish. Post spawn and summer wacky rig has out produced the trig. I love fishing a wacky worm along bluffs and standing timber for both large and Smallmouths. Hope this helps

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When I use a weightless Trig I use a heavier hook to keep it nose down, just not as much a a weight before the eye

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Wacky- often weightless, but if the wind is up, that

can make it difficult to get the bait down due to waves

and wind bowing your line, etc. In that case, I go with

a weighted wacky jig, or I'll put a bull-shot on the line

somewhere to pull it down.

 

T-Rig- again, wind often dictates to me whether weight

or no weight. T-rig does pull thru vegetation better, but

wacky is effective there, as well. Sometimes I change to

a T-Rig just to give the fish a different look. If I want to

fish deep, gotta have a weight.

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The difference in wacky vs T-rigged Senko's is the weight of the hook besides the obvious exposed hook in the wacky style.  I will admit, I throw a T-rigged senko 99.9% of the time.  It's just the technique I personally have learned to master the best.  You can argue there is a different movement in the bait wacky vs T-rigged but I have never found it to be enough of a difference to make a difference and that's fishing side by side.  I will upsize my hook anywhere from a 3.0 to a 5.0 (EWG) depending on weather/wind and to make the fall rate different.  I will use a screw in weight in the nose to overcome wind/current as well.  Confidence is the biggest difference because as I always have said, there is no "wrong" way to rig a Senko.  ;)

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When you pull on it Wacky you can feel the bait better and use your rod tip to quiver it, almost without moving it. I keep line semi tight and feel the Tap bite better.

 

Texas is hard to feel the bait and the bite. More of a line watching thing. You can pop the Texas and get it to dart and die like a fluke.

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