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Finesse Bass Fishing

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19 hours ago, WRB said:

I suggest you read Don Iovino's book "Finesse Bass Fishing & The Sonar Connection". Don defines his finesse presentations at the time the book was publishedin 2001.

Tom

* Don Iovino is a member of the Bass Fishing Hall of Fame, considered the father of finesse bass fishing.

 

He also builds some of the best poppers in the business! TW carries them..

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For me, "finesse" means, down-sizing the lure and line. Down-sizing the "package size" of the lure, directly involves the line -they simply come together. Down-sizing/Finesse gets important when the water gets cold, or under high visibility conditions for the fish. When you down-size line, you must also down-size the hook to match the line.

 

"Finesse" seems to mean: As little disturbance as you can make. In winter cold water, two things are usually at play: water clarity goes up, and fish are generally feeding on smaller prey items, if at all. So we do better on smaller baits, which, in turn, require thinner lines.

 

In my mind, we cannot separate the lure from the line; They are a package deal. Here's my in-depth presentation on what's going on down there with the fish:

 

 

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Let see if I fish Texas rig 1/8oz weight with 6" finesse worm on MH casting rod, is it finesse?

How about weightless trick worm ~7" on Lite Spining/Casting rod, Finesse?

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13 minutes ago, JustJames said:

Let see if I fish Texas rig 1/8oz weight with 6" finesse worm on MH casting rod, is it finesse?

How about weightless trick worm ~7" on Lite Spining/Casting rod, Finesse?

Not where I live. My bass are small-ish, generally with high water clarity, with lotsa sun. Tough to hide 10-20lb lines striking, and cutting, the water over super-spooky fish. In fact, it can be tough to hide a 6lb mono from super-spooky fish.

 

Again, we can't separate the lure from the line it's attached to. They are a package. And big packages more easily spook fish.

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I agree with everything Paul said in his well made vedio, in fact I have been saying the same thing since joining this site, Paul does it better.

Getting back to finesse fishing using spinning tackle, the only reason I use spinning tackle for bass fishing is small diameter line size. Any line under .009 diameter I use spinning reels, that is why I have them. Line diameter affects lure action and finesse is all about precision presentations and precise lure action that can only be achieved with light small lures with small diameter hooks using small diameter line.

Tom

 

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But still, a lot of anglers believe Bass is not so line shy, correct? 

Another one, how about 2-3" jerkbait (1/8 - 1/4oz), finesse?

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4 minutes ago, JustJames said:

But still, a lot of anglers believe Bass is not so line shy, correct? 

Another one, how about 2-3" jerkbait (1/8 - 1/4oz), finesse?

Not trying to push my video... but, you should see it. This is a conundrum that goes around and around. In short, bass can physically see ANY line. But that's not what's important to them. That's NOT where the problems lie.

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12 minutes ago, JustJames said:

But still, a lot of anglers believe Bass is not so line shy, correct? 

Another one, how about 2-3" jerkbait (1/8 - 1/4oz), finesse?

 I say yes, as small cranks are very effective at catching panfish!  

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, fishwizzard said:

 I say yes, as small cranks are very effective at catching panfish!  

 

 

 

 

Just because the lure is small and fished with light small diameter doesn't alway mean it's a finesse presentation. Why, fast moving lures like inline spinners, crankbaits or jerk baits are not presented to bass with a precise presentaion. Standard size bass jigs are small in size and presented with precision however using larger diamete line. For example I use jigs on relative small diameter line as small as .010 in a precise presentation, however using 5 power rods with bait casting reels that I don't consider finesse tackle.

I also use 1/8 oz dart head with 4 1/2" curl tail worms jigs using spinning tackle that I consider finesse presentation using finesse tackle.

I mention Don Iovino as a finesse fishing guru and Don didn't use spinning tackle 25 years ago when he was known as the father of finesse fishing. Don's tackle, back then, was Phenix doddling rod he designed and his highly tuned Ambassaduer 2500C reel with Trilene 8 lb XT mono, 4 1/2" worm, 3/16 oz bullet weight and glass bead, not what we consider as finesse tackle today.

Tom

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