I love Tactical Bassin, and I was watching their video on squarebills and lipless crankbaits. In their info down in the information section they spec'd a Bantam XG. Why would you use an 8:1 gear ratio for this technique? Is it because you want to burn the lure through grass or fish the lipless super fast? I was always under the impression that a 6:1 is the ideal reel for crankbaits. 

 

Can somebody shed some light on this? Thank you 

Same with chatterbaits I saw another known angler using a 8 speed gear ratio! I asked why and all I got answer wise  was to pick up line faster…   Wondered myself if this was a new trend or something?  I’ll stick to slower tried and true gear ratio’s 

I fished a chatterbait with a 7.4:1 today and if you burn it, you'll force it out of the water. I learned that you need a 6 gear ratio for chatterbaits. Might as well use a 6 for spinnerbaits too. I think it makes a bunch of sense to use a low gear ratio since you want to keep those lures lower to the bottom. I just don't get a high gear ratio for any of these techniques. I've always have been told to keep a slow roll on a spinnerbait and chatterbait. You can always speed up, but it's harder to slow down. 

I think it's all about torque. Frogs 8 speed reels, worms 7 speed, moving baits 6 speed. 

9 hours ago, lunkerboss923 said:

Why would you use an 8:1 gear ratio for this technique?

I can only listen to so much lisping, so I haven't seen much of their stuff lately, but a faster reel works ok with lipless baits, and unlike with real cranks, can work ok with squarebills, specially if one is moving the baits wholly or mostly with the rod, and using the reel to take up slack. I personally like a 6. something for squarebills, and that or a 7.something for traps.

A lot of it comes down to how they throw a lipless. Most of the time they tend to be jigging it, and a faster reel to pick up that slack quickly is what works for them. Most lipless retrieves tend to be on the faster side in general, IMO. I personally prefer a 7:1.

No. I would use a 7.x:1  for lipless and 5.x:1 or 6.x:1 for square bills.

I use a 7:5.1 for squarebills and a 6:8.1 for chatterbaits, don't know if that is correct but that is what I like!  I don't think there is any set standards for what speed reels to use, think it is all personal preference!

To me it's how heavy the cover is I am fishing. For moving baits I use 5.1:1, 6.2:1 & 5.8:1. For bottom fishing it's 7.1:1 or 8.1:1 depending how heavy the cover is. For Frogs, Toads & buzzbaits that are in the hucklebuck a  8.1:1 on a 6 power rod. This is what I do & I would think it would depend upon what type of water your fishing & what the fish want. I do not know of a standard.

this season my MH rod broke and my cranking reel took a crap on me so i put my daiwa tatula CT XS which is the 8:1:1 on my cranking rod and i LOVE it. i didnt watch the tactical vid i just did it to see how i would like. it at first i actually  would not put it on the rod i kept telling my self, no no it doesnt work even though i have never tried it. but after trying it  i loved it and this fall was the best producing squarebill/cranking season since i have started fishing i am planning to keep the set up but i did get a SLX DC which is a 7:2:1 which i am going to try to see if i like just because it has the DC unit but if i dont like it, im 100% sure the tatula is going back on my cranking stick. also i was using a KVD 2.5 which has more water resistance than a average 1.5 and it never wore me out. 

20 minutes ago, Jp_midwest said:

This season my MH rod broke and my cranking reel took a crap on me so I put my Daiwa tatula CT XS which is the 8:1:1 on my cranking rod and I LOVE it. I didn’t watch the tactical vid I just did it to see how I would like.  It at first i actually would not put it on the rod I kept telling myself, no no it doesn’t work, even though I have never tried it.  But after trying it, I loved it and this fall was the best producing squarebill/cranking season since I have started fishing.  I am planning to keep the set up but I did get a SLX DC which is a 7:2:1 which i am going to try to see if I like just because it has the DC unit but if I don’t like it, I’m 100% sure the tatula is going back on my cranking stick.  Also I was using a KVD 2.5 which has more water resistance than an average 1.5 and it never wore me out.

Good to hear it worked out for you.

A-Jay