So I'm looking for a fineese casting rod to use for 1/8 oz jig heads and small neds and other plastics.. anyone have any experience with the dobyns champion extreme 702c or the Ark reinforcer 7'1" medium  Or any other suggestions ? I'm currently using a Loomis e6x  7'1" medium xfast  with 8# floro

Price range?

 

I love my Abu Garcia veritas tournament edition rods.

 

You cannot beat em at the $170-ish price point 

1 hour ago, CrashVector said:

Price range?

 

I love my Abu Garcia veritas tournament edition rods.

 

You cannot beat em at the $170-ish price point 

daiwa tatula elites would like to have a conversation with you ?

1 hour ago, CrashVector said:

Price range?

 

I love my Abu Garcia veritas tournament edition rods.

 

You cannot beat em at the $170-ish price point 

Excuse me sir, Sierras, Kadens, Elites, and Tatulas still exist. 

1 hour ago, ironbjorn said:

Excuse me sir, Sierras, Kadens, Elites, and Tatulas still exist. 

 

Yes they do...and they won't out-perform the tournament series.  Pay more if you want, but the Garcia is the performance winner in the rods listed.

1 hour ago, EWREX said:

daiwa tatula elites would like to have a conversation with you ?

 

Are you trying to say the tatula elite is better?  Have you ever actually USED a Veritas tournament edition?  I own both.  The Garcia is the better rod.  By far.

 

 

Like to keep it around 350.00 at the most

I'm a big fan of ARK rods, but for the techniques you mentioned. Phenix Feather 7'1" ML. Outstanding rod for light baits. 

I have a Dobyns Champion Extreme HP 702C and use it for ned's and tubes mainly. Some light shakey heads. The sweet spot is around 1/16-1/4 oz weight. 

 

It is an awesome rod. Very sensitive with a good tip for casting accuracy. 

 

I have also expanded to using light crankbaits (shad rap 5-7, og tiny 4, small balsa) and 110 jr jerkbaits. It seems to work well with the lighter hard baits. The tip is fast but the medium/light helps a lot with trebles. 

 

I use a Daiwa SV light LTD on the rod. 

12 hours ago, CrashVector said:

 

Yes they do...and they won't out-perform the tournament series.  Pay more if you want, but the Garcia is the performance winner in the rods listed.

 

Are you trying to say the tatula elite is better?  Have you ever actually USED a Veritas tournament edition?  I own both.  The Garcia is the better rod.  By far.

 

 

lol. i'm curious exactly how they "out-perform"?

1 hour ago, EWREX said:

lol. i'm curious exactly how they "out-perform"?

 

1 hour ago, EWREX said:

lol. i'm curious exactly how they "out-perform"?

 

Lol...the same way a st croix out performs a Walmart zebco rod.

 

1 minute ago, CrashVector said:

 

 

Lol...the same way a st croix out performs a Walmart zebco rod.

 

thats the exact type of answer i expected from you. i appreciate you having your own opinion, but you have nothing to back up your statement

5 minutes ago, EWREX said:

thats the exact type of answer i expected from you. i appreciate you having your own opinion, but you have nothing to back up your statement

 

The fact that I own both and have used both recently, and you don't and haven't, means my opinion is more valid than yours.

 

The Garcia is lighter and more sensitive.

 

Have you even held one of the te rods...or are you just being obtuse because you want the tatula rod to be better than it is?

 

Why would you think the tatula is a better rod considering you've never used a tournament edition?  Sounds to me like you're the one with nothing to back up your claim.

Sorry Bud, looks like someome’s opinion took over.

3 minutes ago, CrashVector said:

 

The fact that I own both and have used both recently, and you don't and haven't, means my opinion is more valid than yours.

 

The Garcia is lighter and more sensitive.

 

Have you even held one of the te rods...or are you just being obtuse because you want the tatula rod to be better than it is?

 

Why would you think the tatula is a better rod considering you've never used a tournament edition?  Sounds to me like you're the one with nothing to back up your claim.

again, that's your opinion and i have mine. my original statement was disagreeing with you saying there is no other rod comparison in the $170 price range which is false lol. i know you're right about everything all the time, but in this case you aren't

14 minutes ago, EWREX said:

again, that's your opinion and i have mine. my original statement was disagreeing with you saying there is no other rod comparison in the $170 price range which is false lol. i know you're right about everything all the time, but in this case you aren't

 

In the case of the tatula vs veritas TE, I am absolutely right.  The TE is the better rod.

 

I spent money on both.  You haven't.

 

You're the guy who who never drove a Toyota telling me why a Hyundai is better.

 

I get it though.  You're one of the regular **** posters here, and I shoulda just ignored you.

Just now, CrashVector said:

 

In the case of the tatula vs veritas TE, I am absolutely right.  The TE is the better rod.

I wanted to like the Tatula rods. I've purchase quite a few of them over the last two years. 

 

However, the cork has come loose on 3 of mine now and makes a lot of noise while fishing. One was luckily replaced by the retailer, but the latest one to exhibit the issue is my 60th anniversary 7'3".  I've spoken to a well known rod repair shop recently that confirmed they have seen this more than a few times. Disappointing, as I do like the blanks. 

https://youtube.com/shorts/zThHmZkSjD8?feature=share

6 minutes ago, EWREX said:

Lol..hipsters

3 minutes ago, AmmoGuy said:

I wanted to like the Tatula rods. I've purchase quite a few of them over the last two years. 

 

However, the cork has come loose on 3 of mine now and makes a lot of noise while fishing. One was luckily replaced by the retailer, but the latest one to exhibit the issue is my 60th anniversary 7'3".  I've spoken to a well known rod repair shop recently that confirmed they have seen this more than a few times. Disappointing, as I do like the blanks. 

https://youtube.com/shorts/zThHmZkSjD8?feature=share

 

They're not junk for sure.  I use mine for shallow finesse fishing or sight fishing.  Plus, I like natural cork grips a lot.

 

For deeper water where bottom contact lures like tr worms, etc require more sensitivity though, I'd reach for the TE every time.

3 hours ago, BassHRL119 said:

I have a Dobyns Champion Extreme HP 702C and use it for ned's and tubes mainly. Some light shakey heads. The sweet spot is around 1/16-1/4 oz weight. 

 

It is an awesome rod. Very sensitive with a good tip for casting accuracy. 

 

I have also expanded to using light crankbaits (shad rap 5-7, og tiny 4, small balsa) and 110 jr jerkbaits. It seems to work well with the lighter hard baits. The tip is fast but the medium/light helps lot with trebles. 

 

I use a Daiwa SV light LTD on the ro

 

Ok guys thanks for the input time to carry on lol...I'm probably going to go with the dobyns I wish g Loomis made a rod like it but o well time to try something different

1 hour ago, Brad74x said:

 

Ok guys thanks for the input time to carry on lol...I'm probably going to go with the dobyns I wish g Loomis made a rod like it but o well time to try something different

Dont pay full price for a Dobyns rod unless you just have money  burning a hole in your pocket.

 

They are on sale regularly for 20-30% off. Just be patient and ready to purchase when you see the sales. I can't mention the site, but a certain 3 letter acronym will give you a discount if you e-mail them and ask nicely. I just got 24% off a champion xp.

Dobyns gives a 30% military discount. I’m retired Navy so it’s a no-brainer for me.

Just give them a call.

^^^^???^^^^

Tom

4 hours ago, BassHRL119 said:

Dont pay full price for a Dobyns rod unless you just have money  burning a hole in your pocket.

 

They are on sale regularly for 20-30% off. Just be patient and ready to purchase when you see the sales. I can't mention the site, but a certain 3 letter acronym will give you a discount if you e-mail them and ask nicely. I just got 24% off a champion xp.

I don't necessarily have money burning a hole in my pocket but can't wait too long