Anyone with experience with this PE, what do you think of it?

The claimed dia is very small for a US braid, is it accurate?

How does it compare to PP or 832?

Does it rely on a heavy waxy coating, and does it wear quickly? 

I like trying new braids and its either going to be the new no fade Pline, or this Beyond Braid.  The BB comes in 300yd spools for $20, seems to be good to be true.  What do you guys think? TYIA.

I'm pretty sure it's not made in the US.  They proudly display the flag with the words "US Company" which usually means a US middleman.   I buy made in the US braid straight from the manufacturer.  I've never felt the need to pay a marketing company to tell me how great the braid is they buy from the same manufacturers that makes the braid for every other brand.

 

https://www.finsfishing.com

If you are looking for a US made braid, check out Fins. A store I regularly visit carries it. They claim their parent company BBS is now the last US manufacturer of braided line. Also, I have buddy that uses Fins and he really likes it. I have not tried it myself. To me the line he uses feels more like light cord rather than braided line. 

I have used some Beyond Braid line, and it performed well.  I don't know if it's coated or not; maybe they have different versions.  I didn't measure its diameter, but it didn't seem particularly thin.  I think most manufacturers are not telling the truth about the diameter of their line.   In my experience, 8 strand braid is thinner and performs better generally than 4 strand.  I just bought a couple versions of Japanese Seaguer, and they look to be super thin and smooth for the advertised pound test.  I have not tried them yet.  Up until now my favorite braid is Hitena Pure Line, but it has not been available for a couple years.  It is a premium braid and pricey, but lasts a long time and performs very well.  The Seaguer lines looks to be a lot like the Hitena..

11 hours ago, FishTank said:

If you are looking for a US made braid, check out Fins. A store I regularly visit carries it. They claim their parent company BBS is now the last US manufacturer of braided line. Also, I have buddy that uses Fins and he really likes it. I have not tried it myself. To me the line he uses feels more like light cord rather than braided line. 

BBS Tech is the last US owned manufacturer of braided line.  There are other manufactures but they are not US owned.  BBS Tech makes a lot of the lines we use that are sold under different brands.  They started in 1994 making Spiderwire.  Fins is their house brand and offers a variety of very different braided lines.  I use 40G (9 end) and Spin5 (5 end).

I really don't care where it's made, the spool has an American flag on it, so i assumed it was made here, but you know what they say about assuming.

I was just curious because I noticed that you get 300 yds for $25 and the claimed dia is very thin.  

Never tried FINS, but have heard mostly good things about it.  The sling braid looks great on paper, but they don't have it #10.  

3 hours ago, FishTank said:

To me the line he uses feels more like light cord rather than braided line. 

How do you mean? Like it feels rough?

I really liked Plines TCB.  Its a super slick and light braid.  Its coated in teflon, supple and with the teflon coating it casts and handles great.  The problem is like any other heavily treated/coated braid, the performance degrades as the coating wears away.  It has tendency to get ropey after 6 months or so of hard fishing, yet its never failed me.  Thats why I might give EndurX a shot.  I grabbed a spool for my buddy and was waiting for him to spool it up so I could see what it was like, but his wife's really sick and he hasn't been able to fish really since April.

I'll probably end up getting Xbraid.  Might try the sinking braid for the first time.

16 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

I really don't care where it's made, the spool has an American flag on it, so i assumed it was made here, but you know what they say about assuming.

I was just curious because I noticed that you get 300 yds for $25 and the claimed dia is very thin.  

Never tried FINS, but have heard mostly good things about it.  The sling braid looks great on paper, but they don't have it #10.  

How do you mean? Like it feels rough?

I really liked Plines TCB.  Its a super slick and light braid.  Its coated in teflon, supple and with the teflon coating it casts and handles great.  The problem is like any other heavily treated/coated braid, the performance degrades as the coating wears away.  It has tendency to get ropey after 6 months or so of hard fishing, yet its never failed me.  Thats why I might give EndurX a shot.  I grabbed a spool for my buddy and was waiting for him to spool it up so I could see what it was like, but his wife's really sick and he hasn't been able to fish really since April.

I'll probably end up getting Xbraid.  Might try the sinking braid for the first time.

@Tennessee Boy might be able to answer that better than I can. I think my buddy is using 40G. It seems slick and coated.

 

For me, I like X-Braid Upgrade and Ohdragon but Sinji is on another level.  Great line but not worth it.

Theres a reason why most best braids in the world are made in Japan.  YGK doesn't outsource its fiber, it makes its own as does Gosen.  I'm not sure about Silky anymore, but its still made in Japan and I wouldn't be surprised if they produced their own or buy it domestically.  Varivas is excellent, but I think they moved production to Vietnam.  Im pretty sure Seaguar makes its own materials as well for its flagship PE. 

Not all braids are dyed.  Im not sure what process they use to get the different colors, but the material is already the desired color before it is woven, that's how No Fade braids are made.  

Some brands will add wax to the braid, or wax over a PVC or PE coating.  Its not really for distance, its there to protect and prevent the braid from being waterlogged.

I want some kind of coating on my line, but either the coating has to last a long time or I want the braid itself to keep its shape and water resistance when the coating is worn.

I think all braids are treated with some kind of process, either dyed and or coated.  The only braid Ive ever used that felt as if it wasn't heavily coated off the spool was Viscous 4 carrier.  You can feel the texture of the weave when its brand new, but its still got a slickness to it.  I think Vicious is out of Taiwan or Vietnam.      

On 7/1/2025 at 10:15 AM, FishTank said:

@Tennessee Boy might be able to answer that better than I can. I think my buddy is using 40G. It seems slick and coated.

 

For me, I like X-Braid Upgrade and Ohdragon but Sinji is on another level.  Great line but not worth it.

You ever try Gosen 16?  That stuff is awesome.  The #.8 is 20lb test and it comes in pink which I like.  I cant find anyone who sells it in the US.  I usually get a spool every time I get a JDM reel.

@GetFishorDieTryin I haven't tried Gosen. Ive seen it on a few JDM sites but I've been happy with YGK and Varivas for the most part so it hasn't hit my radar.  Maybe I'll check it out one day. 

Fins 40G is an 8 end line woven around a core.  It does not have a coating.  It is tightly woven and has a consistent round shape.  It’s a little stiffer than their Spin5 which is available in #10 and is more like traditional braid.

11 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Fins 40G is an 8 end line woven around a core.  It does not have a coating.  It is tightly woven and has a consistent round shape.  It’s a little stiffer than their Spin5 which is available in #10 and is more like traditional braid.

Fins uses a polyurethane coating.

Or at least that's what they claim.

15 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

Fins uses a polyurethane coating.

Or at least that's what they claim.

From their website:

FINS 40G is the most unique braid on the market and a true game changer! Don't let the mono-like feel fool you this is a braided line with the highest strength-to-diameter ratio available. Our FINS exclusive 40G over-braiding process weaves 8 high-tenacity fiber bundles around a core bundle of fibers creating a super-round composite line structure that can fool the hand and eye.  

• 9-end composite construction
• Smooth, mono feel without any coatings/wax
• Will never become flat or fluffy
• Highest strength to diameter ratio in the braid market

Huh, thats strange.  I went into multi hour rabbit hole on it last night and I know I saw it somewhere.  When you ask google about 40g it says it uses polyurethane, but I didn't initially see it there, It was someone talking about it on YT, I thought it was the braidman guy, but it could have been someone else.  I would be more inclined to beleive the FINS instead of google.

The 40G sounded really interesting.  It almost sounds like it fished like a thicker monotex with a braided core.  Its almost 10 yrs old, but it sounds pretty cool.  I can only find 300yd spools and they aren't cheap, almost $60.

Im still curious about it.

Does it soak up water and or stain?  It comes in white which I really like, but white has tendency to get real dirty and turn brown.

Does it ever get ropey or fray?

  

   

 

I just spooled some Varivas on my BFS rig. Aside from the Daiwa J Braid Grande, it’s the only “Japanese” PE/braid I’ve tried. I’m normally an 832 guy due to its ubiquitous availability nature alone…

I know what you mean.  X9 is a good line for fairly cheap and its pretty easy to get in the colors I like locally.  Its a thin PE and supple line, but the claimed dia is way off.