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Yo Zuri Ultrasoft....you've let me down

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I had a brand new spool (as in it was spooled up 2 months ago) of 12# on my Revo SX. Fishing with Tin today, and for the first (and last) time, the Ultrasoft let me down. Made a nice long side arm lob with the baitcaster (with the Berkley paddletail) and about 15 yards out the line breaks in mid cast. No specific reason, just snapped.

Also, I've heard talk of this line having "braid like memory". But, after repeated uses of KVD, and even running the line through a rag soaked in KVD when it was spooled...these are the results:

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I'm considering taking the Ultrasoft off the spinning reel too.... :)

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Can't wait for RW's response to this post.

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This is like waiting for the chef to come out after you complained your steak was not cooked right.

No instigating here, just stating the facts with photographic evidence.

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I really don't like Yo zuri line, at all.  It's not worth the cash, when you take into consideration that you can spend less cash, and get the same d**n quality, if not better, than the results you are having...  That's too bad...  

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I really don't like Yo zuri line, at all.  It's not worth the cash, when you take into consideration that you can spend less cash, and get the same d**n quality, if not better, than the results you are having...  That's too bad...  

yo zuri is pretty cheap line or good price :-? I've noticed from a few of your post you tend to be frugal?

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I use Regular Hybrid 10# and it doesn't seem that bad. I always spray my reel with the KVD conditioner as I leave the house.

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i know this doesnt help your cause...but i love the line. maybe a bad spool...

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I love Yo-Zuri Hybrid, but I do not like Ultra Soft At ALL.  I bought some Ultra Soft thinking it would be better, but I hated how it handled.  I'm back to the regular Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

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I have Ultra Soft spooled on 1/2 a dozen reels and I love it. Nothing except braid has 'braid like' memory. I am convinced that you can get a "bad spool". It's the only explanation as to why some guys HATE particular lines, the first time they use them. If you are breaking line on the cast, it has to be defective or damaged line. I would return it for a replacement if I didn't damage it myself. No matter what brand it is. I still change out  line 2 or 3 times a season. Bulk spools make it affordable.

Ronnie

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I am not positve but I might suspect that the line conditioner had something to do with it.  

I used some of the KVD line conditioner on several types of line and on some if I put to much on, it causes the line to become brittle.  I have not had that happen to the Ultra-Soft yet. It has happend to me on the regular Hybrid and some Trilene Professional Fluorocarbon.

I would give it another try without the KVD Line Conditioner.

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I hope we are beyond it now and can laugh. I have never seen such garbage. But I'm, sure it was just a bad batch or you did something WRONG when you put it on.

It's just like the Gammy hook conversation we had. :)

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I really don't like Yo zuri line, at all.  It's not worth the cash, when you take into consideration that you can spend less cash, and get the same d**n quality, if not better, than the results you are having...  That's too bad...  

yo zuri is pretty cheap line or good price :-? I've noticed from a few of your post you tend to be frugal?

It's not typically that cheap, when you think about it, versus a spool of something else, almost 2 times the size...  I don't buy cheap line, but I don't spend a ton on it...  I spend what I can afford, at a given time.  I plan to buy some kind of braid in the future, near future, but I don't plan to spend 30+ bucks on it...  You know?

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Hmm...

Regardless of the cause:

I would take the line back for exchange or send it back if you ordered

online with a polite note describing what happen. This event is not

typical.

Regarding memory:

I have stated that line memory in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is

comparable to braid when the line is "in use". Some coiling will

be present from storing the line on the spool of your reel. After

a cast or two, the line loses its memory.

Regarding KVD Line & Lure Conditioner:

This a product that lives up to all of its claims. With a single

application, line becomes more manageable, friction is reduced

(slick), backlashes are easier to unravel and line memory is

virtually eliminated. The statement that KVD resulted in making

line more brittle seems ridiculous to me based on my experience

over the past several months.

Regarding cost:

Even at full-bore retail, $12 for 600 yards isn't particularly expensive.

1000 yards of original Hybrid is occasionally on sale at BPS and other

retailers for $7.88. 1 lb spools of Ultra Soft #6 are currently on sale

at Cabelas for just under $60.

In summary, I suggest having the line replaced at no cost and trying

another spool. If that doesn't work out, the loss is something less than

life threatening. Fortunately, alternatives are numerous and readily

available. Not everyone will like Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft,

but I do and continue to strongly recommend this line to all

serious fishermen. It has never let me down and I have never

been broken off by a fish using either of the Yo-Zuri lines.

8-)

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The Master has spoken.

Heed his advice.

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            Hmm...

Regardless of the cause:

I would take the line back for exchange or send it back if you ordered

online with a polite note describing what happen. This event is not

typical.

Regarding memory:

I have stated that line memory in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is

comparable to braid when the line is "in use". Some coiling will

be present from storing the line on the spool of your reel. After

a cast or two, the line loses its memory.

Regarding KVD Line & Lure Conditioner:

This a product that lives up to all of its claims. With a single

application, line becomes more manageable, friction is reduced

(slick), backlashes are easier to unravel and line memory is

virtually eliminated. The statement that KVD resulted in making

line more brittle seems ridiculous to me based on my experience

over the past several months.

Regarding cost:

Even at full-bore retail, $12 for 600 yards isn't particularly expensive.

1000 yards of original Hybrid is occasionally on sale at BPS and other

retailers for $7.88. 1 lb spools of Ultra Soft #6 are currently on sale

at Cabelas for just under $60.

In summary, I suggest having the line replaced at no cost and trying

another spool. If that doesn't work out, the loss is something less than

life threatening. Fortunately, alternatives are numerous and readily

available. Not everyone will like Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft,

but I do and continue to strongly recommend this line to all

serious fishermen. It has never let me down and I have never

been broken off by a fish using either of the Yo-Zuri lines.                                                            

X2

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It's not typically that cheap, when you think about it, versus a spool of something else, almost 2 times the size... I don't buy cheap line, but I don't spend a ton on it... I spend what I can afford, at a given time. I plan to buy some kind of braid in the future, near future, but I don't plan to spend 30+ bucks on it... You know?

I don't know what line you fish, but 275 yards of Ultra Soft is like $8 and 330 yard of Trilene XT is right around $6.  That price difference is negligible.  Plus, with US you're getting a copolymer and not straight mono so it should cost a bit more than straight mono.  

With that said, I haven't used Ultra Soft but the price is most certainly NOT expensive.

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Price is good but I don't care for it either. It's been the only line this year that has let me down as well. Too many breaks and they weren't at the knot (couple of them broke while bringing the fish to shore so I could see where it broke).

BPS XPS Fluoro in 8 lb

Cabelas 10lb mono

Big Game 12 lb mono

Power Pro 30 lb braid

These have been my line of choices this year on different rigs and I have ZERO complaints with these four.

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I don't understand how this line could have breaking problems. It's by far the strongest line I've used other than braid, and also very abrasion-resistant.

I also had trouble with memory, but applying KVD and letting it settle overnight just about eliminates any hint of memory. It is important to let it set overnight though.

That said, I still used braid 95% of the time (Yo-Zuri US the other 5%). The long casts and zero stretch are features that I am not willing to give up.

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Price is good but I don't care for it either. It's been the only line this year that has let me down as well. Too many breaks and they weren't at the knot (couple of them broke while bringing the fish to shore so I could see where it broke).

BPS XPS Fluoro in 8 lb

Cabelas 10lb mono

Big Game 12 lb mono

Power Pro 30 lb braid

These have been my line of choices this year on different rigs and I have ZERO complaints with these four.

Weren't you the guy that said a couple of days ago your line was breaking because you weren't cleaning out your backlashes all the way? Was this with the Yo-Zuri and are you sure thats a line issue? Try the Regular Hybrid when you go out next. It works well for me.

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I don't understand how this line could have breaking problems.

That makes two of us. This is my second year using it....

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Probable cause:

Deep backlash. Both original formula Yo-Zuri Hybrid

and Hybrid Ultra Soft are a bonded fluorocarbon/ nylon

copolymer. Fluorocarbon is an inert crystal which is why

it lasts indefinitely. The fluoro in the line "cracks" when

it is severly bent and is visible as a kink or weak spot.

The spot can be easily felt and should come as no surprise

as it is not some hidden flaw in the line.

Solution:

Strip the line containing any apparant flaws. I like to have

80-100 yards of fresh line, the rest is effectively backing.

However, Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft never get old, so they

should only be replaced "as needed".

8-)

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