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Can you guys suggest a line for my unweighted soft plastic set up.

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ST. Croix medium fast action. I fish unweighted worms, senkos, and flukes. I want to stay away from braided line, but I want a low vis line with really low stretch. I'm not getting solid hook sets on long casts because of stretch. Using 10lb flouroclear currently.

Thanks for the help...greatly appreciated!

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Spinning tackle: Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft #6 (.010" diameter, 11.9 lb breaking strength).

Baitcasting gear: Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft #12 (.013" diameter, 19.5 lb breaking strength).

8-)

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Give braid a shot, it has changes a lot in the last 3 years or so.   15 lb Power Pro would be perfect.  I have been using Power Pro all year on all my baitcast setups and love it.  I fish a ton of weightless trick worms and senkos with the braid and it is FAR superior on long casts.  There is no stretch and you can feel everything.  Switching to braid is like exchanging a Ugly Stick in for a G-Lomis.  You can feel so much more with braid.

Forget what people say about fish seeing the line.  I have fished it all year without a leader in ponds and in the river (which at this time of year is crystal clear) and have caught just as many fish if not more with mono.

The only reason I can see to not fish it is the fact that it wraps around your line guides/rod if you miss a fish and you have to unwravel it.  It also wraps around tree limbs and doesn't let go like mono does.  Other than that I love it.  

More sensitive

No stretch

No memory

Not really more expensive seeing how you can fish one spool all year long.

Easier to pick backlashes out of than mono

Sense of security knowing you can horse a fish around and not worry about your line breaking.

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ST. Croix medium fast action. I fish unweighted worms, senkos, and flukes. I want to stay away from braided line, but I want a low vis line with really low stretch. I'm not getting solid hook sets on long casts because of stretch. Using 10lb flouroclear currently.

Thanks for the help...greatly appreciated!

Uhhh, I don 't think that 's the problem ( line stretch causing bad hooksets ), I think the problem is how you are rigging the bait and your hooks, why ? I fish a lot of unweighted baits with a rod much limber than yours ( ML - L ) with quite thin line ( 6 lbs ) with stretchy line ( nylon ) and don 't have problem setting the hook.

Since I know the bait is noodly and I 'm fishing with stretchy thin line I have to compensate for that by rigging T-exposed so my bait doesn 't have to cut through the bait, that and a razor sharp hook ( Owner ) solves the problem.

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So there you have it: Copolymer, Braid or Nylon

Looks to me like the choice is your's  :)

Roger

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ST. Croix medium fast action. I fish unweighted worms, senkos, and flukes. I want to stay away from braided line, but I want a low vis line with really low stretch. I'm not getting solid hook sets on long casts because of stretch. Using 10lb flouroclear currently.

Thanks for the help...greatly appreciated!

Uhhh, I don 't think that 's the problem ( line stretch causing bad hooksets ), I think the problem is how you are rigging the bait and your hooks, why ? I fish a lot of unweighted baits with a rod much limber than yours ( ML - L ) with quite thin line ( 6 lbs ) with stretchy line ( nylon ) and don 't have problem setting the hook.

Since I know the bait is noodly and I 'm fishing with stretchy thin line I have to compensate for that by rigging T-exposed so my bait doesn 't have to cut through the bait, that and a razor sharp hook ( Owner ) solves the problem.

I rig it like that too.  I've done my own unscientific stretch test tying fishing line to a nail and seeing how many cm I can stretch Pline Flouroclear and CXX, Trilene Flour, and Yozuri were almost all the same...pretty stretchy.  Is there any that is proven to have little/no stretch that isn't braid?

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I use pline fluoroclear and it has worked very well. It works great for my plastics setup. Just be sure to check ur line if your fishing around structure cause it frays, like all fluorocarbon

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Is there any that is proven to have little/no stretch that isn't braid?

Nope, all monofilamentous lines stretch, some more than others but they all stretch to some degree.

Another factor you have to take in consideration is coiling, if the line is coily you really have more line out there than the distance between you and where your bait is, the fish bites you pull to set the hook but instead of being X line length ( the distance between you and the fish ) you are pulling you realy have X + an undetermined extra yards of line in the form of coils so your rod travel is longer and the hookset is delayed giving the fish enough time to spit the bait.

Fluoro and copoly unlike nylon retain more the coiling.

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Fused superlines have the lowest stretch of the superline types. Fireline is one.

I use gold color Stren Superbraid for most of my weightless presentations (so I can see it) and occasionally the green or gray color in other superline brands. The bass don't care what color or non-color your line is.

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I don't know why I can't get past the thought of fish seeing the braid.  I know smallies can be line shy sometimes and other times they attack anything.  Trout?..I know flouro works better.  Trust me..if braid was a little less visible I'd be all over it.  

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The type of line is only one small part of the equation.

Make sure your hooks are as sharp as possible, and that you've reeled in as much slack as you can before setting the hook.

Sometimes a longer rod will help in moving a lot of line on the hookset as well.

Cheers.

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10lb. Fireline (flame green), 8lb. flourocarbon leader (24"),

with a #8 Spro power swivel connecting the two.

Loaded on a spinning reel.

BB :)

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