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200e7 vs. Patriarch vs. HSTA.. OR ZILLION?

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I am currently looking to buy a new baitcaster. Currently, I am using a Pflueger Purist that I have had for a few years. I will probably switch back between my new reel and my purist, but overall I will be using this reel for anything and everything, including weightless plastics. I know getting a new reel is a topic beaten to death around here, but I wanted to get some opinions on some reels I am thinking about that I don't often see talked about.

I am leaning toward getting a 200e7, but a couple other reels have caught my eye. Namely the Pflueger Patriarch and the Daiwa Advantage HSTA. I have seen bad things about Pfluegers, but my Purist has held up very well over the years. Also, I haven't seen much talk about the Daiwa Advantage HSTA. So, I was wondering if anyone with experience with the Patriarch or HSTA could offer an insight and maybe a comparison to the 200e7. Thanks, any help is appreciated.

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I have owned all of these. All perform well. The Curado is best at ease of use. Both the Curado and Patriarch will cast lighter weights, The Diawa Advantage although a fine reel will struggle with lighter weights as opposed to the Curado and Patriarch. In my opinion the Curado 200E7 will make a better all around reel.

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Also you might consider another thing, reel dimensions, I find the Advantage a little bit too wide.

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Having owned all three, I would go... 1. Patriatch, 2. Curado, 3. HSTA, but thats just my opinion. Go to a tackle shop and do the hold test, see if they will let you mount it on a rod and how you think it feels.

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I've never owned or used an HSTA, but I do own a Patriarch and a Curado 200e7. They're both great reels but I'd take a Patriarch over a Curado.

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curado is the only way to go.. i gave pflueger a chance ive had three of them and all three locked up within 1 to 2 years. i do alot of tournament fishing but i take care of my stuff so they should last longer than that.. i still have 2 old curados when they first came out yep they still work just fine..

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I am leaning toward getting a 200e7

Go with it.

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You can't go wrong with either a Patriarch or Curado.  I have both, 2 Patriarchs and 4 Curados, I personally prefer the Curado for it's low profileand spool access.  I originally swore by the Patriarch and the dual braking but it's sort of unneeded, I hardly ever use the mag brake any more unless tge wind kicks up.

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I had a HSTA.  Fine reel...easy to cast (never tried light baits tho), good distance, and smooth retrieve, but it was a bit wide for my mini-hands to comfortably palm.  Traded the HSTA for an e7 and never looked back. 

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Thanks for the input guys. I was all set to go ahead and get the Curado until I saw the Zillions for sale in the flea market section for $180. From retail prices this seems like a superior reel to the Curado, but is it that much better? While the zillions appear to be in excellent condition, should I buy a used zillion over a new Curado? And since this will really be my only reel for pretty much everything will it be as sufficient of an all around reel as the Curado appeared to be? Thanks for any input fellas..

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I would go for the Zillion.  I cast weightless Senkos and 1/4 oz drop shot on my Zillions with no problems.  The Zillion is one overbuilt reel - it will outlive you.

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I would go for the Zillion. I cast weightless Senkos and 1/4 oz drop shot on my Zillions with no problems. The Zillion is one overbuilt reel - it will outlive you.

I haven't weighed a 1/4 oz dropshot rig, but a weightless Senko weighs 3/8 oz. which is the same a 7" Power Worm and an 1/8 oz worm weight.

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I haven't weighed a 1/4 oz dropshot rig, but a weightless Senko weighs 3/8 oz. which is the same a 7" Power Worm and an 1/8 oz worm weight.

I highly doubt a 4" senko weighs 3/8 oz, which casts fine on a Zillion or any decent baitcaster - even my Bpro Extreme.

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Curado and Zillion for me have cast light baits very similarly. 

Curado weighs a bit less, which depending on the rod you're using can be a good thing or bad thing. If the rod is already tip heavy, the heavier reel can balance it out making it feel lighter.

A lot of it is a matter of preference. Both will perform very well, both are solid reels. Can't go wrong with either.

 

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i would get a patriarch xt.

Dodge - as much as I like Suffix, I finally spooled up a reel with Fireline braid. It's looking like it may be my new favorite.

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No questions.

Go with the pinnacle. 

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I haven't weighed a 1/4 oz dropshot rig, but a weightless Senko weighs 3/8 oz. which is the same a 7" Power Worm and an 1/8 oz worm weight.

I highly doubt a 4" senko weighs 3/8 oz, which casts fine on a Zillion or any decent baitcaster - even my Bpro Extreme.

Then I suggest you weigh a 4" stickbait and get back to us.

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I haven't weighed a 1/4 oz dropshot rig, but a weightless Senko weighs 3/8 oz. which is the same a 7" Power Worm and an 1/8 oz worm weight.

I highly doubt a 4" senko weighs 3/8 oz, which casts fine on a Zillion or any decent baitcaster - even my Bpro Extreme.

Your posts didn't say anything about 4" Senko, you just said Senko. A 'standard' 5" Senko weighs 3/8 oz.

The point I was trying to make is this: Saying your reel excels at casting weightless soft plastics based solely on the fact that you can cast a weightless Senko is misleading, at best.

A weightless Senko is still a fairly heavy lure. If you want to see how well it handles weightless lures, try casting a 6" floating worm, 4" ring worm, or a Trickworm rigged with a 2/0 offset round bend hook.

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