Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
smashingsmallies

flourocarbon line

Recommended Posts

I've recently "graduated" to the flourocarbon line.  I found the price range to be in the ten dollar to over twenty dollar range.  I opted for the 12 dollar line.  I used it a couple of days ago and the difference was immediately noticeable.  The sensitivity is incredible and I love the low stretch of it.  HOWEVER, with the good aspects comes the bad.  I found immediately that line twist is gonna be a problem.  I have way more line twist with the flouro than I do the mono and I mean way more.  I see I'm gonna have to frequently let my line out in the current without a lure on just to untwist my line.  I will do this cuz I like the line alot but I know it's gonna be a pain in the butt to do this.  My question is, do any of you have this "twist" problem?  Do you have a flouro recommendation that will help me?  Do I really have to get the twenty dollar kind?  Thanks, Fish on.  John.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Get the Berkley 100% flouro in 6-8 lb. it is worth the money.  Also make sure you are putting it on the reel correctly, this is the usual cause of line twist issues. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Get the Berkley 100% flouro in 6-8 lb. it is worth the money. Also make sure you are putting it on the reel correctly, this is the usual cause of line twist issues.

I also put the line on after soaking it in water. I will also spray some Reel Magic or KVD in a rag and run the line through it as I put it on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Spinning tackle:

InvizX #8. Line diameter is .009, the same as

most brands #4. I have been experimenting with

this line since last fall without an issue.

Baitcasting gear:

AbrazX #12. No issues.

Both of these Seaguar fluorocarbons have proven

to be superior products which justifies their premium

price.

8-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Get the Berkley 100% flouro in 6-8 lb. it is worth the money. Also make sure you are putting it on the reel correctly, this is the usual cause of line twist issues.

I also put the line on after soaking it in water. I will also spray some Reel Magic or KVD in a rag and run the line through it as I put it on.

Excellent info. Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

RW...I like the way you think. As I've spooled my reels with the exact same, except on one of my spinning reels, I spooled up 6 lb InvizX..

These Seaguar lines run a tad over 20.00 for 200 yds, and imho, well worth it, and yes you can spend even more for top of the line fluro, try 40.00 for 160 yds.. :(  So, tese lines will stay on my reels until something better in the 20.00 price range come along.. :)

Spinning tackle:

InvizX #8. Line diameter is .009, the same as

most brands #4. I have been experimenting with

this line since last fall without an issue.

Baitcasting gear:

AbrazX #12. No issues.

Both of these Seaguar fluorocarbons have proven

to be superior products which justifies their premium

price.

8-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yall may think im cheap, but i love berkly vanish...ive fished it for about 5 years now with no problems

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

John, I too,just started using flourocarbon line on  a few of my spinning and bait cast set ups. I previously used Yo-Zuri Hybrid and sufix on most of my reels.

The first thing I noticed was line twist. It happens after most outings. I do the same remedy of dragging it thru a microfiber cloth, with KVDLL on it. It sure helps.

Fluoro is like a hot babe-very needy and high maintenance, but worth the extra attention.

I fish mostly clear lakes and ponds,but I can already tell the bass are less line shy. There's a small private 3 acre pond I fish and they are already on beds. I caught more than normal using a Strike-King 5 inch shim-e-stick,which I fished all last year.

I'm fishing with the Spider Wire Ultra-cast 100% flouro, its superb in all the good traits.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Check out the article on this site titled 'The Fishing Line System"

A true flouro on a spinning rod is a pain no matter what brand you use.  An appropriately sized braid with a flouro leader casts better than anything else and will be more sensitive.  The trick is making sure you have good knots.  A drop of super glue on your braid to leader knot is helpfull.   Also having some larger sized line (mono) on spool as a backing will save money as you don't need to waste your braid on line you won't actually be casting.   A small piece of electrical tape over the backing to braid knot will keep knot from poking through and catching line on casts.   

  Some braids do not work well on spinning setups either if not totally round.  I have had good luck with Power Pro.

   My medium weight spinning rod is set up like this with 20lb mono backing, 10# braid (I don't know how they come up with the 10# as you can uproot a tree with it), and 8# flouro leader.   

   On a baitcaster I use flouro on all with a cheaper backing line except my topwater rod and extra heavy flipping rod.

   Remember with flouro, attention to knot tying is extra important due to flouro 'burning' if cinched to fast and without lubrication.

   Just my 2 cents.

Roll Tide

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Spinning tackle:

InvizX #8. Line diameter is .009, the same as

most brands #4. I have been experimenting with

this line since last fall without an issue.

Baitcasting gear:

AbrazX #12. No issues.

Both of these Seaguar fluorocarbons have proven

to be superior products which justifies their premium

price.

8-)

I have been using Seaguar InvisX in 8 lb for spinning rods and 15 lb for my baitcasters for awhile now. (I don't use fluoro on all my setups.)   I also use the 8 lb a lot for deeper cranking. It is the best fluorocarbon I have used. The improvement in memory over other fluorocarbons alone justifies the price to me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I've recently "graduated" to the flourocarbon line. I found the price range to be in the ten dollar to over twenty dollar range. I opted for the 12 dollar line. I used it a couple of days ago and the difference was immediately noticeable. The sensitivity is incredible and I love the low stretch of it. HOWEVER, with the good aspects comes the bad. I found immediately that line twist is gonna be a problem. I have way more line twist with the flouro than I do the mono and I mean way more. I see I'm gonna have to frequently let my line out in the current without a lure on just to untwist my line. I will do this cuz I like the line alot but I know it's gonna be a pain in the butt to do this. My question is, do any of you have this "twist" problem? Do you have a flouro recommendation that will help me? Do I really have to get the twenty dollar kind? Thanks, Fish on. John.

If you're using spinning gear, then line twist is a given no matter what line you use.  If you wish to save you can try cabela's house brand fc line, No-Viz or something like that. It is very similar to SeaGuar's Invizx, enough for me to opt for it over my beloved Invizx when money is tight.

Low stretch in FC line is a relative term. Some fc lines can stretch more than mono and some don't contract to their regular size after the stretch as monos tend to do.

I do what I can to minimize line twist by closing the bail manually and never starting a retrieve until I know there is tension in the line. The other thing I do is after every 8-10 casts, I will let the line "rest" as I call it and watch the line undulate as it untwists if there is twist. Hold your rod out at about 45 degrees and if there is twist present the lure will twist in alternating directions. It only takes a few seconds and that is time well spent vs. untangling severely twisting line resulting from neglect twist earlier in the day.

As a result, I hardly ever experience line twist, even on my lesser spinning reels that aren't even in the Symetre class.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great info guys-thanks.  As I've been using it, it seems the line twist issues have gone down.  I love the sensitivity and it took me a bit to get use to feeling everything and with the low stretch I had to loosen up on my pull cuz I was just jackin' 'em out of the water.  The abrasion qualities are top notch-some of the toughest line I've fished.  I'm gonna check into the line cloth/oils etc... and see what happens.  Gonna rain this weekend, good time to hit the stores.  John.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I've recently "graduated" to the flourocarbon line. I found the price range to be in the ten dollar to over twenty dollar range. I opted for the 12 dollar line. I used it a couple of days ago and the difference was immediately noticeable. The sensitivity is incredible and I love the low stretch of it. HOWEVER, with the good aspects comes the bad. I found immediately that line twist is gonna be a problem. I have way more line twist with the flouro than I do the mono and I mean way more. I see I'm gonna have to frequently let my line out in the current without a lure on just to untwist my line. I will do this cuz I like the line alot but I know it's gonna be a pain in the butt to do this. My question is, do any of you have this "twist" problem? Do you have a flouro recommendation that will help me? Do I really have to get the twenty dollar kind? Thanks, Fish on. John.

If you're using spinning gear, then line twist is a given no matter what line you use. If you wish to save you can try cabela's house brand fc line, No-Viz or something like that. It is very similar to SeaGuar's Invizx, enough for me to opt for it over my beloved Invizx when money is tight.

Low stretch in FC line is a relative term. Some fc lines can stretch more than mono and some don't contract to their regular size after the stretch as monos tend to do.

I do what I can to minimize line twist by closing the bail manually and never starting a retrieve until I know there is tension in the line. The other thing I do is after every 8-10 casts, I will let the line "rest" as I call it and watch the line undulate as it untwists if there is twist. Hold your rod out at about 45 degrees and if there is twist present the lure will twist in alternating directions. It only takes a few seconds and that is time well spent vs. untangling severely twisting line resulting from neglect twist earlier in the day.

As a result, I hardly ever experience line twist, even on my lesser spinning reels that aren't even in the Symetre class.

I've used the Cabela's Fluorocarbon too.  It is decent, especially when you consider the price but it's difficult to go back to it after using Seaguar.  Still, for someone with a tight budget, it fills a niche and is acceptable.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mono absorbs water.  Fluorocarbon does NOT.  Soaking it in water does not affect it.  Using KVD line conditioner will help.  Line twist is going to happen on a spinning reel.  Coil up a lawn hose and you can see the end spins on the way in.  If the lure doesn't spin on the way back, the line is loading up with twist.  Eventually you willl have to get the twist out.

Take the advice above.  Always close the bail by hand.  Always put the line under tension before reeling.

Not all Fluorocarbon is the same.  XPS and Pline are excellent line.  Invisx is more manageable but has less sensitivity and seems to stretch more.  It is a sacrifice that I do not choose to make.  Berkley 100% is aweful for spinning reels.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The lighter the fluoro line rating (or smaller diameter), the less problems you'll have with your spinning gear. 8 lbs is on the cusp, and after that things get noticeably worse.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like BassPro XPS fluoro for its good price, plus Tackle Tour tests gave it good marks.  One tip - don't fill your spool as full as you would with mono.  The extra spool lip space will help keep the fluoro from jumping off the spool, which it has more tendency to do than limper mono.  I think you'll be pleased with how long fluoro lasts on the reel - no water absorption, no UV degradation.  You can keep it on there as long as there's enough line to fish.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The P - Line pure fluoro is the best I have used, not all that much memory or twist and that's on a SPINNING reel.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It might be hard to find state side but SO far i'm liking Daiwa Def Bass 100% flouro 300m for 30 bucks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Rubba Bubba made a very important point......

I personally don't go any bigger than 8lbs on fluorocarbon on a spinning reel.  If I needed more strength I would go with braid.

I have caught lots of 4- 6lb fish on 8lb line.

Look at your reel and only spool up the line test recommended by the reel.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have not used fluoro on my spinning outfits but love it on baitcasters. I don't understand why FC would twist more than other lines on spinning gear. Would someone let me know since I plan to put it on a spinning rig soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

NBR,

    Fluorocarbon is stiffer than many mono lines.  If you open the bail without your finger holding the line it can spring off like a slinky.  I personally find it equivalent to Standard Stren mono.  I really don't have anymore line twist issues with fluorocarbon.  Always close the bail with your hand and always reel the line under tension.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I tried 6#trilene 100% fluorocarbon on my spinning reel and hated it. the line was sensitive but was so stiff and coily not to mention it cut my casting distance considerably so i took it off after a couple of outings and replaced it with power pro braided line and love it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Look at your reel and only spool up the line test recommended by the reel.

Those aren't 'recommendations', just a statement of line capacity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
yall may think im cheap, but i love berkly vanish...ive fished it for about 5 years now with no problems

I have had real problems with Berkley Vanish. Main problem with this line is that it frays way to easily. I lost at least four fish from break offs that were two or three feet form the the lure. I don't know if it was a bad batch or what but I'm never buying it again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
yall may think im cheap, but i love berkly vanish...ive fished it for about 5 years now with no problems

I have had real problems with Berkley Vanish. Main problem with this line is that it frays way to easily. I lost at least four fish from break offs that were two or three feet form the the lure. I don't know if it was a bad batch or what but I'm never buying it again.

X2 Vanish is weak, brittle garbage.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • fishing

    bass fishing

    fishing forum

    fishing rods

    fishing rods

    fishing rods


    fishing rods

    fishing reels
    fishing gear

    Truck Caps

    fishing reels
    fishing reels

    fishing

    bass fish

    fish for bass
    fish

×