What ever happened to fishing in the good ol' days. Granted I'm only 26 but I feel braided line (ie, spiderwire, fireline, blah blah blah) is cheating. Where is the fun in wrenching a fish in as opposed to fighting it with skill having a more level playing field.

Just a thought not a sermon.

braided line = boring

LOL,  do you fish heavy weeds/frog?  Its almost physically impossible to get a fish out of it without braid or real heavy mono.

"almost" is the key. lol but I dont fish heavy weeds  often.

I suppose certain scenarios, there is advantage.

I fish Guntersville quite a bit - I know for certain that without braided lines, I wouldn't have had a chance to land many a big fish in the heaviest slop that lake has to offer.  I definitely don't consider it boring - I consider it leveling the playing field.

I'm a big fan of light lines and big smallmouth in more open water situations, but I don't have a problem with braid in certain situations.

What ever happened to fishing in the good ol' days. Granted I'm only 26 but I feel braided line (ie, spiderwire, fireline, blah blah blah) is cheating. Where is the fun in wrenching a fish in as opposed to fighting it with skill having a more level playing field.

Just a thought not a sermon.

braided line = boring

Every type of line has enormous value if you have got enough savvy to know when and where to use it.

What ever happened to fishing in the good ol' days. Granted I'm only 26 but I feel braided line (ie, spiderwire, fireline, blah blah blah) is cheating. Where is the fun in wrenching a fish in as opposed to fighting it with skill having a more level playing field.

Just a thought not a sermon.

braided line = boring

Every type of line has enormous value if you have got enough savvy to know when and where to use it.

I'm sure it does. But fishing for an 8lb fish on 30llb test =  boring

Let's see pics of those 8 lb. fish.  All I see is a three pounder in the avatar.  If you're in it for the fight, pick a different species. 

Let's see pics of those 8 lb. fish. All I see is a three pounder in the avatar. If you're in it for the fight, pick a different species.

Whoa Whoa Whoa reel in those horses chief... I didnt say I had caught an 8 lbr. Did I? No check your reading comprehension. But lets move on say I caught that 3 lbr on a 30lb line... another example of boring...

Lesson 1 read then think then speak... the world would be that much better.  ;D

LOL, do you fish heavy weeds/frog? Its almost physically impossible to get a fish out of it without braid or real heavy mono.

Most of the lakes I fish have either heavy brush or vegetation.  Pitchin' and Flippin' with braid is the way to go in the worst of it.  In another thread I mentioned that I fished a muddy lake last weekend and the only way to get a bite was to pitch or flip right next to the tree trunks.  These trees had many branches so it took a lot of effort to find spaces and openings to flip through to get the lure to the fish.  I used braid.

Under these circumstances, my description of the use of braid is as follows:

Boring . . . . no. 

Easy to catch fish . . . . no.

Difficult to cast . . . . yes.   

Rewarding . . . . absolutely.   

LOL, do you fish heavy weeds/frog? Its almost physically impossible to get a fish out of it without braid or real heavy mono.

Most of the lakes I fish have either heavy brush or vegetation. Pitchin' and Flippin' with braid is the way to go in the worst of it. In another thread I mentioned that I fished a muddy lake last weekend and the only way to get a bite was to pitch or flip right next to the tree trunks. These trees had many branches so it took a lot of effort to find spaces and openings to flip through to get the lure to the fish. I used braid.

Under these circumstances, my description of the use of braid is as follows:

Boring . . . . no.

Easy to catch fish . . . . no.

Difficult to cast . . . . yes.

Rewarding . . . . absolutely.

Ok I get it. Im the only one.

LOL, do you fish heavy weeds/frog? Its almost physically impossible to get a fish out of it without braid or real heavy mono.

Most of the lakes I fish have either heavy brush or vegetation. Pitchin' and Flippin' with braid is the way to go in the worst of it. In another thread I mentioned that I fished a muddy lake last weekend and the only way to get a bite was to pitch or flip right next to the tree trunks. These trees had many branches so it took a lot of effort to find spaces and openings to flip through to get the lure to the fish. I used braid.

Under these circumstances, my description of the use of braid is as follows:

Boring . . . . no.

Easy to catch fish . . . . no.

Difficult to cast . . . . yes.

Rewarding . . . . absolutely.

Ok I get it. Im the only one.

I'm not sure I know what you mean.  No joke was intended.  I just posted the wink to let you know this debate was all in the spirit of good fun.  Maybe I should have posted a standard smiley instead. 

LOL, do you fish heavy weeds/frog? Its almost physically impossible to get a fish out of it without braid or real heavy mono.

Most of the lakes I fish have either heavy brush or vegetation. Pitchin' and Flippin' with braid is the way to go in the worst of it. In another thread I mentioned that I fished a muddy lake last weekend and the only way to get a bite was to pitch or flip right next to the tree trunks. These trees had many branches so it took a lot of effort to find spaces and openings to flip through to get the lure to the fish. I used braid.

Under these circumstances, my description of the use of braid is as follows:

Boring . . . . no.

Easy to catch fish . . . . no.

Difficult to cast . . . . yes.

Rewarding . . . . absolutely.

Ok I get it. Im the only one.

I'm not sure I know what you mean. No joke was intended. I just posted the wink to let you know this debate was all in the spirit of good fun. Maybe I should have posted a standard smiley instead.

I understood that. I wasnt offended like J Francho. 

Some people just like the control of braid. No stretch means a much different type of fishing. Personally I like having braid on my st croix 6'8" avid extra fast action, I can feel the smallest of bites even when the line isn't very tight.

Some people just like the control of braid. No stretch means a much different type of fishing. Personally I like having braid on my st croix 6'8" avid extra fast action, I can feel the smallest of bites even when the line isn't very tight.

Now that is a great example of debating. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. Same to you Senile1.

Remember the whole boring argument is "in my opinion" not fact. I was wondering what the buzz of braided line was.

[edit]Inflammatory remarks removed. Your point has already been made. No sense beating a dead horse over it.[/edit]

Some people just like the control of braid. No stretch means a much different type of fishing. Personally I like having braid on my st croix 6'8" avid extra fast action, I can feel the smallest of bites even when the line isn't very tight.

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I absolutely love the sensitivity of braided line.

You do realize that they make braid in lighter # ratings, don't you? You can spool your spinning rig with 10# braid and enjoy all of the added sensitivity of braid without feeling like you're "cheating". You can also enjoy all of the abrasion resistance of 30# braid but use a 3-6' leader of 6-8# mono or flurocarbon line. 

However, if you plan on flipping and pitching into heavy cover, you'll either need a VERY large reel to handle the mono necessary (think saltwater tackle) or a line as strong but with a smaller diameter...hmm...what might that be...

Some people just like the control of braid. No stretch means a much different type of fishing. Personally I like having braid on my st croix 6'8" avid extra fast action, I can feel the smallest of bites even when the line isn't very tight.

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I absolutely love the sensitivity of braided line.

well cool maybe ill try it some day. maybe I'm just missing something. 

Gotta say; this is the first thread that hit 2 pages that I've started... lol. 

Sorry was trying to lighten things up a bit.

1-sensitivity

2-cast better

3-line capacity (salt water)

4-Lasts a long time

I understood that. I wasnt offended like J Francho.

I wasn't offended, I was serious. Bass fishing is about solving the puzzle. If its a fight you're after, try northern pike, musky, striper, catfish, or whatever big species are available, not some overgrown sunfish.

I'm not really impressed when someone says they caught an 8 lb. bass on 8 lb. line. I've caught fish over 20 lbs. on 4 lb. line, specifically Great Lakes trout. For bass, I fish lines as light as 4 lb. fluorocarbon all the way up to 80 lb. braid.

My choice has nothing to do with the size of my quarry, and everything to do with the cover in which that quarry lives. In fact, in some cases, your 8 lb. mono would be a better choice than 50 lb. braid. Zebe encrusted boulder fields would be one example of that situation. Now, take that 8 lb. line to fish wood laydowns in weedy shallows, and you're in for an epic failure.

Its all relative. Some are about catching, some are about bragging.

I understood that. I wasnt offended like J Francho.

I wasn't offended, I was serious. Bass fishing is about solving the puzzle. If its a fight you're after, try northern pike, musky, striper, catfish, or whatever big species are available, not some overgrown sunfish.

first off I dont have many options for big species in Northern Va. There are some Muskie Striper in the Potomac, yes but many spots require a boat which I do not have. I mostly do bank fishing local lakes and ponds. Sometimes I'll rent a jon boat or something.

Second why can't I fish for a fight for the "overgrown sunfish". With My lack of options its one of the best fighting fishes that I have readily access to. And you're right, 8lb line for an 8lb fish isnt anything to get excited about. So neither is a braided line that has the expectancy to not break. My personal best is a 22lb Channel on 6lb mono. That may not be impressive either but it was more fun "to me" to fight it instead of wrenching it in on spiderwire.

What ever happened to fishing in the good ol' days. Granted I'm only 26 but I feel braided line (ie, spiderwire, fireline, blah blah blah) is cheating. Where is the fun in wrenching a fish in as opposed to fighting it with skill having a more level playing field.

Just a thought not a sermon.

braided line = boring

Every type of line has enormous value if you have got enough savvy to know when and where to use it.

I'm sure it does. But fishing for an 8lb fish on 30llb test = boring

I wish we had an emoticon that pictured a plane flying over someone's head.  It would be perfect for the above statement.

Your 26 and don't know what your talking about...(big surprise) J Francho was trying to edgimacate ya. not argue with ya...

man I'm getting old

Your 26 and don't know what your talking about...(big surprise) J Francho was trying to edgimacate ya. not argue with ya...

man I'm getting old

I dont know what im talking about when it comes to braided line thats why I started this whole thing. Congrats you have been promoted from Mr. Obvious to Captain Obvious. ;D

I don't understand you're 29, how is me being 26 any different :-?

Your 26 and don't know what your talking about...(big surprise) J Francho was trying to edgimacate ya. not argue with ya...

man I'm getting old

I dont know what im talking about when it comes to braided line thats why I started this whole thing. Congrats you have been promoted from Mr. Obvious to Captain Obvious. ;D

I don't understand your 29 how is me being 26 any different :-?

ok all jokes and sly comments aside. I see where the braided line comes in handy. I wasnt aware of the sensitivity factor which is very nice to have. done and done.