From 77° to 45°

[Raul]

Now that 's what I call a sudden drop in air temp , in the lapse of two days ( Friday-Saturday ) that 's how much the temperature dropped, while this event took place I caught a big bunch of fish at Zimapán this weekend, no biguns showed but who cares if those 1 to 1 1/2 pounders are biting like mad.

BTW, the water temperature was an average of 75°, not bad at all and thinking about it closely I 'll be ketchin them during Dec and Jan while you guyz ask: Is it spring yet ? ( my baaaad )

This is pretty much the size we caught ( my friend Pedro playing silly in the background :, guess which one of his last names is: MacAllister, remember Home Alone ? well, Macauly Culkin is a choir boy compared to him ).

[Raul]

Another view of the lake, it 's an area called the "springs", there are several warm water springs that pour into the lake ( we couldn 't navigate to them to take pics, the place was choked with water hyacinth )

[Raul]

Rugged country surrounds the lake.

[Vyron]

Rugged country surrounds the lake.

I know which spot i would fish  

[Catt]

it 's an area called the "springs", there are several warm water springs that pour into the lake ( we couldn 't navigate to them to take pics, the place was choked with water hyacinth )

That's a Bass Hole if I ever saw one   8-)

[Keithscatch]

Raul, I will be right there with ya in Dec, Jan and February when our northern buddies will be either ice fishing, playing fishing games on Xbox or Playstation or ice skating haha.

Isn't it great to live in a tropical climate?

Those are cool pictures and one of these days I will have to make the trek down to Mexico to do some fishing.

[Raul]

But of course it 's great to live in a warm climate, the only thing that stops you from fishing is having something else to do ( more "important" according to the ball and chain, like taking the kids to the zoo  : ).

Let 's suffer some more........let 's go fishin '.  

[Tom Bass]

Cool pictures Raul. It doesn't look like there's a lot of shore fishinggoing on at that lake.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

WOW, THAT INCOMING RIP IS BEAUTIFUL!!!

Tell your buddy they go down easier HEAD FIRST!

As for us poor northerners,.........I'm going to have to start a new thread on that one.

[Raul]

Cool pictures Raul. It doesn't look like there's a lot of shore fishinggoing on at that lake.

Bank walkers eat your heart out !  ;D

C 'mon Low_Budget, enlighten us southern boyz on the fine art of fighting boredoom while the water is in solid form.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

THAT PLACE LOOKS FREAKIN' UNREAL!!! VERY, VERY JEALOUS...

Wayne

[BD]

Would love to fish that place.

[RoLo]

Raul, is that fat tree in the backdrop a cypress tree, or is it some other species?

[Raul]

It 's a native species called Ahuehuete ( pronounced ahwehwehteh) Roger, the name means " The old man of the water " in nahuatl ( dialect the aztecs spoke ). In Mexico only two species of trees grow where the soil is moist year round ( like river beds, springs, lakes and lagoons ), those are ahuehetes and willows.

Locate a row of sunken willows or ahuahuetes and bingo !, you 've located the submerged river channel in a manmade lake.  

[RoLo]

It 's a native species called Ahuehuete ( pronounced ahwehwehteh) Roger, the name means " The old man of the water " in nahuatl ( dialect the aztecs spoke ). In Mexico only two species of trees grow where the soil is moist year round ( like river beds, springs, lakes and lagoons ), those are ahuehetes and willows.

Locate a row of sunken willows or ahuahuetes and bingo !, you 've located the submerged river channel in a manmade lake.

Interesting history.

I know what you mean about trees with water-loving root systems being good river-channel markers 8-)

The dramatic branching of the Ahuehuete surely enhances the vista!

Roger

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

NORTHERN ENLIGHTENMENT

[Raul]

Here 's an interesting story about ahuehuetes Roger, the truth is that the conquest of Tenochtitlan by the spanish was not really performed by the spanish, it was performed by a combination of factors:

1.- The aztec superstition that Quetzalcoatl ( aztec god ) was going to return, Quetzalcoatl was described as a white man so when the Spanish conquistadors appeared aztecs thought that Cortez was Quetzalcoatl.

2.- The sighting of a comet which in aztec religion was seen as a sign of Quetzacoatl 's return

3.- Aztecs were pretty much hated by the tribes they conquered like the tlaxcaltecans, this tribes became allies to the Spanish conquistadors.

4.- Biological warfare, one of Cortez men had small pox, europeans were pretty much "inmune" to small pox, but the native americans were not, small pox, measles, chicken pox and other diseases were unknown by the native american inmune system. Inadvertedly the Spanish introduced this diseases decimating the native american population.

5.- The way in which aztecs waged war, aztecs took prisoners either for ransom or to be sacrificed to their gods, instead of killing the Spanish soldiers they took them prisoners.

At first when Cortez arrived he was mistaken as a god, then when the aztecs saw that he was no god they fought him defeating his army, during the retreat of Cortez ' army happend on of the most memorable days in Mexican history, it 's called "La Marcha de la Noche Triste" ( the march of the sad night ) where Cortez sawing his army defeated cried at the base of a tree, that tree was an ahuehuete; and to this day ( 485 years later ) the tree is still alive and it 's a national monument.

After the retreat Cortez formed an alliance with the tlaxcaltecans, with allies and reinforcements he returned to Tenochtitlan which by that time had already being decimated by small pox, it took no effort to Cortez to conquer Tenochtitlan because there was no one to defend it.

So the conquest of Tenochtitlan was not really peroformed by the military ability of Cortez nor the superiority of the Spanish expedition, it was performed by a combination of factors, the true conquerors of the Aztec Empire were the native tribes and the small pox.

[RoLo]

Thanks Raul, that's extremely interesting!

Now I've got a better understanding of the childhood diseases that were commonplace names in my household.

I'm referring to Small Pox, Chicken Pox and Measles. The key to immunity of any disease is "exposure".

It was Dr. Salk (founder of the Polio vaccine), who actually made the statement that sexual promiscuity

could never be sufficient to eradicate sexually transmitted diseases.

Roger