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on a positive note, If you can catch fish that well with this guy getting under your skin, imagine the damage you'll do with a good partner. You have my props on that!

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Anyone spot me $50 'till payday ? anyone ?...............Hellooooo........ :(

Reminds me of a guy who talked his way into going camping with us years ago. Each of us agreed to bring certain food items so we'd eat good every night. He shows up with ketchup and mustard. I kid you not. So we got him good and drunk and let him sleep outside in a hammock. Lets just say the bugs feasted that night.

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Yup, it's so hard to find a good fishing bud now a days, LOL!!!! I guess i will just ride solo for a while. Every person i fish with is either a deadbeat or too afraid to tell their wife they want to go fishing!

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I learned my lesson with tree catchers, so I only take people out that I know can fish, all others are shore bound. The guy is clueless! Leave it be not worth your time.

  I sorta agree and sort of not. I don't mind too much taking people that have no clue or those who are always in the trees,backlashing,can't rig a bait,use there rods/reel correctly. etc... I enjoy watching others catch fish and seeing them grow with experience.

   The part that bothers me is when they don't want to learn anything or they take your advice and let it go in one ear and out the other. If your playing fishing guide and they figure they don't need to learn because your doing all the work anyways driving the boat,putting them on spots,telling them what baits to use,where to cast,how to work the baits,explaining why the fish are here or there,and dealling with all the cluster f***s etc.. It gets old real quick. As long as someone at least makes an effort then I don't mind all the extra problems.

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What do you expect? You seem to be quite the soft touch. I think the day would have went quite differently had you said something to the guy rather than kept your mouth shut.

Sorry man, but I was LMAO(and shaking my head)through the whole story.  I agree with the B man, and I think you should still say something.  It will possibly set him straight, and if he wants to whine to others, well obviously they know him so that won't get him far.  Maybe he will realize.  Better luck next time. 8-)

Man that sucks!  I recently got a boat and I told my buddies that when they go we split everything and if they don't like it they don't have to come.  Some try and "forget" to give me there share but I have one of my buddies always ask what do I owe you for the drinks or whatever we need for that trip.  

Yup, it's so hard to find a good fishing bud now a days, LOL!!!! I guess i will just ride solo for a while. Every person i fish with is either a deadbeat or too afraid to tell their wife they want to go fishing!

X2 X2 X2, I hear ya buddy!

The other thing that gets me, I am a Non-Boater, and I have two friends with newer bass boats and they are too busy going to the bar 3-4 days a week, than to go fishing. Its a bummer, I have a crap load of tackle and always let them use everything of mine and usually put them on good fish. Some peoples priorities :(

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Well the inevitable happened today at our weekly meeting! After it was over, he walks up to me and says " you ready for the weekend again"? I could not hold it and told him exactly what i thought of him. He than offered to give me $20 for gas and bring his own drinks!!!!! I just walked away and went to work! He doesn't even think he did anything wrong that day!

I'd dropped him off..... IN THE LAKE!!!!!!

what a loser >:(

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Deadbeats are a dime a dozen, but since you work with this fellow,

I have a hunch that you knew what you were in for.

I worked with a fellow who had four kids and was quite poor. Although he was not a deadbeat,

Jimmy was the stingiest, grouchiest man in the world! Regardless, I happened to like the guy,

because he had other redeeming qualities. A bit of a soft-touch, I often invited Jim on my boat,

because I liked his company. But all I ever heard at work was, "How can you possibly spend a day with that guy?".

DW, this was completely different than your case, because Jimmy was not a user or a deadbeat, he was just poor.

It was my car, trailer, boat & motor, but he eagerly split all gas and tolls...Right To The Penny. ;D

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I no longer have a boat but had one when I lived on a lake back in Michigan. You go fishing or boating with me just bring a smile and I will supply the rest unless cost was discussed beforehand and we had an agreement. Doesn't sound like an arrangement was made beforehand.

As Rolo said, you most likely had a thought as to this person's character.

If it were me I would be blaming myself for having poor judgement. The only one I ever complain to is my wife and she justs walks out of the room. Everyone has a bad day once in a while, hardly worth talking about, let it go.

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I no longer have a boat but had one when I lived on a lake back in Michigan. You go fishing or boating with me just bring a smile and I will supply the rest unless cost was discussed beforehand and we had an agreement. Doesn't sound like an arrangement was made beforehand.

As Rolo said, you most likely had a thought as to this person's character.

If it were me I would be blaming myself for having poor judgement. The only one I ever complain to is my wife and she justs walks out of the room. Everyone has a bad day once in a while, hardly worth talking about, let it go.

Guess you missed when i said we agreed to split gas before hand in the original post!?! And the part about us working for the same company but not together huh!?!

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You were probably going fishing anyway so it wasn't like you were spending anymore for gas, so it wasn't an extra out of pocket expense.  Whatever this person's shortcoming was it doesn't sound like that big of deal, just a day you wished would not have happened.

As your "deadbeat" fishing partner isn't here to defend himself, The original post may be a bit biased.   There are always three sides to any story, yours.......his......& the truth.

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You were probably going fishing anyway so it wasn't like you were spending anymore for gas, so it wasn't an extra out of pocket expense. Whatever this person's shortcoming was it doesn't sound like that big of deal, just a day you wished would not have happened.

As your "deadbeat" fishing partner isn't here to defend himself, The original post may be a bit biased. There are always three sides to any story, yours.......his......& the truth.

Are you kiddin me guy!?! I mean really!?! Are you one of these people or what.........................................

You were probably going fishing anyway so it wasn't like you were spending anymore for gas, so it wasn't an extra out of pocket expense. Whatever this person's shortcoming was it doesn't sound like that big of deal, just a day you wished would not have happened.

Thats a pretty lame excuse. If a person takes me out on their boat, I think I should atleast offer to pay for part of the gas even if they were going fishing anyway. I know that when I take someone with me I often do burn more gas. I, as the boater, feel somewhat obligated to get them on fish and that usually means driving more than I regularly would. Utlimately if someone is nice enough to take you on the boat, you are sharing in the fun derived from that trip and thus should share in the expense the trip cost. Its not only the fair way to do it, its the right thing to do.

And, reading the story, the guy did more than just refuse to pay for gas. While we may not have the whole story, most of what was said isn't a gray area. It sounds pretty cut and dry. How do you justify taking a guys food and drink?

If that behavior is okay with you, so be it, to each his own. That person wouldn't go fishing with me again. And frankly, if that behavior is no big deal to you, I wouldn't want you on my boat either.

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You were probably going fishing anyway so it wasn't like you were spending anymore for gas, so it wasn't an extra out of pocket expense. Whatever this person's shortcoming was it doesn't sound like that big of deal, just a day you wished would not have happened.

Thats a pretty lame excuse. If a person takes me out on their boat, I think I should atleast offer to pay for part of the gas even if they were going fishing anyway. I know that when I take someone with me I often do burn more gas. I, as the boater, feel somewhat obligated to get them on fish and that usually means driving more than I regularly would. Utlimately if someone is nice enough to take you on the boat, you are sharing in the fun derived from that trip and thus should share in the expense the trip cost. Its not only the fair way to do it, its the right thing to do.

And, reading the story, the guy did more than just refuse to pay for gas. While we may not have the whole story, most of what was said isn't a gray area. It sounds pretty cut and dry. How do you justify taking a guys food and drink?

If that behavior is okay with you, so be it, to each his own. That person wouldn't go fishing with me again. And frankly, if that behavior is no big deal to you, I wouldn't want you on my boat either.

THANK YOU Ellesar!!!!! The point i tried to make was that it isn't about gas, money food or whatever! It is the way he went about things in general! His whole attitude was the part that upset me!

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Yeh, I am one of those people.  One of those people that when someone goes with me they goes as my guest even, if they offer to pay.  For me that's the right thing to do and it makes me feel good helping another.  After I settled down I probably would have a good chuckle over it, not worth stressing out.

 

I feel your pain. There is nothing worse than trying to entertain someone who has a conflicting personality.

If I invite you, you are considered my guest and get to use my secondary equipment and gas is free. Just bring food.

If you invite yourself and I accept then we are splitting everything and you better have a respectable amount of tackle.

Every time some 'acquaintance' asks me "when are you taking me fishing?" I usually tell them my brother fishes with me every week.

I feel your pain. There is nothing worse than trying to entertain someone who has a conflicting personality.

If I invite you, you are considered my guest and get to use my secondary equipment and gas is free. Just bring food.

If you invite yourself and I accept then we are splitting everything and you better have a respectable amount of tackle.

Every time some 'acquaintance' asks me "when are you taking me fishing?" I usually tell them my brother fishes with me every week.

ha I do the my brother fishes with me thing too.

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I'm still wondering how the dude used up 3 bags of plastics but only caught what, 4 fish?

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I'm still wondering how the dude used up 3 bags of plastics but only caught what, 4 fish?

He couldn't stay out of the lily pad v stems or the overhanging trees for that matter! He doesn't try to pop or wiggle the lure free, he just sets the hook, LOL!

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dink,

Sounds like it was handled poorly, all the way around.

1. Did you ask about gas $$$ when he called? (knowing the extra distance you'd be driving??)

2. Did you ask where his food/drinks/tackle were when you picked him up?

3. You loaned him money for a lighter and were surprised he didn't have gas money?

4. You didn't say anything when he grabbed your rods?

5. And after all that, you didn't lock the truck when you had to clean out the boat and put away tackle?

I think by the time you left the house, you knew (or should have known) almost every issue that was coming up that day... It's not worth the energy to get mad over. And if the was the first time you ever had an issue with a guest, you now know what to look out for.

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I guess i just was not expecting none of it because i have never had anyone do that to me! I don't automatically look for the bad in people but i will now! When i picked him up i just saw him throw stuff in the boat but had no idea it was just rods and reels(dark as heck)! Oh well, it's all good! I went out solo today and caught a total of 17 fish. Two where over 3lbs and one went 5lb 9oz. The rest were all super dinks! I actually feel bad because there is a member here that PMed me about going fishing but i had been busy with work/holiday. Now that i got a chance today, i accidentally deleted his last message and i don't remember his screen name! Maybe he will see this and PM me again!

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