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Fish feel pain?????

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I like to think that they enjoy getting a hook through their  jaw!! If this is actually a concern, you may want to take up another sport such as birdwatching.

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lol..birdwatching! that was in some magazine i recently read...cant remember which one tho,...Anyway. NO...if they did why do they kep eating lures?lol  dont bother me any. FISH ARE GOOD EATIN!

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Some scientist did a study on this and found that the fish brain is incapable of feeling pain.  They don't have the right kind of brain structure and nervous system or something like that.

Now, where did I put my pocket protector...

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         No where in my post did I say that I would stop fishing if they feel pain. I personaly don't care. My friend does not fish because he says that It hurts the fish to hook them. >:( Thank you Mullman for your half way intelligent post.  

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Hi Pond-Pro.  Actually, I was only kidding in both of my posts.  That is hard to convey via the written word.  My opinion is reflected in the posts, but I meant it in the nicest possible way.  Perhaps I should have made use of some smilies?  Anyway, my sentiment remains, but I certainly did not mean to offend you.  I didn't realize that one must agree with you to reflect intelligence.  I shall strive to do better in the future ;D

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As mullman said there was a study several years ago that concluded that fish don't feel pain. This was a university study and as well as I can recall it was at the University of Tennessee but that is a pure guess. A few years ago PETA commissioned a study that concluded they do feel pain but then you have to look at who sponsered the study and paid for the desired results.

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I would hope not...with all the testing I did on fish when I was a kid...lol  firecrackers and other things.  Man those were the good ole days...lol

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Those studies are a lot of hot air, fish, like any other vetebrate can feel pain, pain is a primordial sense like hearing or seeing and it 's necessary for survival, why do you think Port Jackson sharks have spines on their backs ? and we 're talking about a less evolved vetebrate than fish, does this mean that fish feel pain the same way we do ? no, they do not feel the pain the way we do simply because we mamals have a different level of pain, fish have a much higher level of pain tolerance but that doesn 't mean that they don 't feel pain.

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haha squid i know what you are talking about...firecrackers and even batting practice with the smaller fish and paddles.... i'm sure they didn't feel a thing

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I doubt it. They probably just feel pressure in their mouths. They could probably feel something if you stabbed them through their body with a knife or something though. I don't feel sorry for fish, but I wouldn't fillet them if they were still alive.

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I have heard they do not have nerve endings in their mouths.

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Question:  If there was conclusive evidence that fish DID feel pain, would any of you quit fishing?  Isn't this the real question? Thanks!

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This is probably one of the best articles I've seen on the subject.  It answers this question very well.

http://www.fishontario.com/articles/do-fish-feel-pain/

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Question: If there was conclusive evidence that fish DID feel pain, would any of you quit fishing? Isn't this the real question? Thanks!

I wouldn't.

I doubt it. They probably just feel pressure in their mouths. They could probably feel something if you stabbed them through their body with a knife or something though. I don't feel sorry for fish, but I wouldn't fillet them if they were still alive.

Me neither. The only time i felt sorry for them was when i was on the ocean and i was catching blues. I went out with a guide and every fish we pulled in he cut it open and ripped out the guts and the heart. My guide had a liking of ripping out the heart and holding the still beating heart in his hand. Poor fish.

back on topic, I don't think they feel much pain in the lip but i think it would hurt if someone did what my guide did.

Make sure to kill fish humanely with a priest and not carving it up.

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Glenn,

That was the study I was thinking of:

"Fish don't possess a neo-cortex. They literally don't have the brain system to feel pain or other emotions like fear."

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Issue #1- Fish pain/PETA  

I would opt to believe that they don't feel pain, but can sense pressure on the line, thus their need to fight and get away.  Either way, I'm still going to fish.  I'll never believe anything that PETA says due to their extreme methods against hunters and anglers.  I have read where they once put broken glass in canned dog food on hunting trails so the hunting dogs would eat it and die.  There's a group of them in Southeastern Oklahoma (yes, it shocked me to know they were this close to me) who have been known to puncture the tires on the State fish hatchery vehicles and vandalize their equipment.  How can any group of people ever gain respect doing things like that?  I guess we anglers and hunters should realize that, too.  Any irresponsible behavior on our part doesn't make our group look good either.  Public perception is important.

Issue #2-  Birdwatchers

As much as I think this hobby might might not be "up our alley", we should respect these people's desire to come outdoors and share the joy that we experience fishing and hunting. Birding (the official term) is one of the top hobbies (right up with hunting and fishing) here in Texas and they pay entrance fees into parks and purchase sporting equipment that generates tax revenue for conservation (i.e. Pittman-Robertson Act).  Also, being in close contact with some of them, we should learn to be kind to our "outdoor neighbors" and strive to keep them happy.  When the day comes to keep or cull sportfishing as a sport, we need as many people on our side as possible.

I look at it this way:

Sportfishing and access to public waters is like hunting.  They are both a privilege, not a right.

We must do all we can to preserve that privilege and not give anyone a reason to take it away.

-God bless,

:)

Fisher

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I have a feeling that if fish felt pain, then i'd have a couple of fish with a real bad headache right now.  

If your from virginia you might remember the PETA people a few years back, marching around naked outside of one of the malls.  Do these people have any self decency?  What if my child happened to be shopping that day and saw them standing out there naked?  At first it seems kinda funny to me, hearing the line "Daddy whats that?"  But, think about the image your easily influenced 5 year old child could have had in his/her head for the next few years.

Birdwatching?  Anymore i'm doing that from the front deck of my boat every time i go fishing.  Things are sure slowwwwwwwwwww.  Only fish caught in the past 3 trips are 2 pike!

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Birdwatching......... funny you should bring it up....

Last year I joined up with the local birwatching club just to see what it was all about.

You should see how some of these folks get into it with all their fancy glasses, cameras, and telescopes.........

Kinda reminds me of how some of us anglers get carried away with our gear.

Aaaaanyway, seeing as how I really couldn't enjoy the birdwatching properly with my el-cheapo set of binoculars......... and I couldn't afford a $1000 setup to SEE them up close, I decided on a little common sense and ingenuity.

My logic told me that instead of spending the big bucks on optics, my perfectly good 12 guage would basically do the same thing.

After a few well placed shots, I was able to see all the birds I wanted up REAL close....... for as long as I wanted.

Needless to say, the birdwatching "club" thing didn't really work out for me. ;)

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