has anyone ever tried using grub rigged just on a straight shank hook with a about an 18in leader between that and a couple of split shots. i seem to have very good success with this and always catch multispecies with it, thanks for the input

Nope.

I always fish grubs on a jig head.

always fish them on a jig head as well. However I have had great success with tubes and finess worms like that. I will give that a fair shake and see how it works.

Thats my dock fishing setup on a couple lakes. The docks on both of these lakes are pounded. The one is really off colored I take a white grub and die it Chartruse and sometimes with split shot and sometimes without. The other has both largies and smallies on the docks I use a clear smoke in pretty clear water and the split shot.

I don't really care what anybody else is using I no that this setup works on these lakes. At the wieghtins I talk about spinnerbaits and rats.

Garnet

How is the line twist on that split-shot rig?

Not to bad I oversize my hook a little to make a keel and don't really buzz it.

Garnet

Smallmouth candy--- 1/4oz jig head, 5" grub in Bluegill color.

My line twist question was in reference to the straight shank hook split shot rig of FuturePro's.

I used to rig it the same way but the line twist was killer even with a swivel

You just need a smaller swival. Lookup Redwing Tackle they are steelhead specailest they have super small 30lb swivals.

I use these for my dropshoting.

Garnet

I throw grubs similiar to that but on a carolina rig.  Grubs work great for smallies,  I use them on c rigs, t rigs, jig heads and shakey heads.  They just work anyway you want.

Considering the variety of baits that fall under the label of "grub", I'm wondering what "grub" most of us are referring to with that moniker... sickle tail, boot tail, straight tail... heck, even a 3" Senko is more of a grub than worm?  My "favorite" smallie bait is a 3" long hand-tied hare jig that I fish "just like a grub".

zoom fat albert.  I believe that is the only grub I own.

This is the only grub I fish:

http://***/cgi-bin/order/30-20

Smallmouth candy--- 1/4oz jig head, 5" grub in Bluegill color.

Ditto.   Ivan

Besides the afore mentioned hare jigs that I swim, my grub box contains 4" sickle tailed grubs, a "skinny" 3" walleye sickle tailed grub, Brewer's 3" boot tailed grubs and a Gene Larew 3 1/2" Long John boot tailed grub.

This is the only grub I fish:

http://***/cgi-bin/order/30-20

Do you mean brand or size?  What colors do you use and what what jighead too?

Thanks

Brand and size, but you might prefer 4", that is the most popular size.

I like 1/4 oz, colored jig jeads. Red, white, chartreuse and black.

I use Zoom Fat alberts in Green pumpkin, Green pumpkin/red flake, Watermelon and Watermelon/red flake.

GYBC spidergrubs in assorted colors. I believe its considered a grub.

Spidergrubs rigged on a 3/8 oz football jig. These things are deadly worked slow on the bottom.

GYCB calls them Hula Grubs. I think they are significantly different than a standard grub, or at least I fish them differently. I sometimes hop a grub, but I try to fish it so that the tail is always in motion. By contrast, the Hula Grub can be fished like a tube or a jig. Whereas the grub seems to resemble a shad or minnow, the Hula Grub has more of the characteristics of a crawdad (tentacles on the front).

the gycb hula grub is a great bait for smallies- nuff said

Yep, that's one sexy grub!

I like the GYCB grubs too.  I also have been fishing these more over the last couple of years.http://westcoastcustomtackle.com/admin/product_info.php?products_id=57&osCsid=764f10b7c5fb7d66159b420e7b749436

Mann's stingray grub is very similar and is a great grub too.  A couple of fishing buddies of mine have fished this style of grub almost exclusively for a few years and finally talked me into making them.  We usually fish them on a 1/4 oz. head in 12-40'of water.