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I just got some 7.5" Yum ribbontail worms and T rig them with a 4/0 hook....i went out this morning and had some big hits including the biggest bass ive ever had on my line....but all 3 of the big ones spit the hook....am i using to small of a hook for this worm or is it just bad luck?

I would not think so I use a 3/0 Owner J hook for worms that size, maybe you just did not get a good hook set?  What style worm hook were you using? Maybe you need one with more bite.

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What kind of rod and line are you using?

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What kind of rod and line are you using?

6'6 Fenwick spinning rod with a Daiwa tournement edition spinning reel...with 15 lb stren super braid

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I would not think so I use a 3/0 Owner J hook for worms that size, maybe you just did not get a good hook set? What style worm hook were you using? Maybe you need one with more bite.

great action....fish love um, but let me know what you think

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What kind of rod and line are you using?

6'6 Fenwick spinning rod with a Daiwa tournement edition spinning reel...with 15 lb stren super braid

Rod power?

That probably isn't enough rod to drive a hook through plastic and then through the fish's mouth.

What kind of rod and line are you using?

6'6 Fenwick spinning rod with a Daiwa tournement edition spinning reel...with 15 lb stren super braid

Rod power?

That probably isn't enough rod to drive a hook through plastic and then through the fish's mouth.

Burley is probably right... That's the only thing I can come up with besides a bad hookset.

I was thinking the same thing about the rod, your link does not work for the hook.

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What kind of rod and line are you using?

6'6 Fenwick spinning rod with a Daiwa tournement edition spinning reel...with 15 lb stren super braid

Rod power?

That probably isn't enough rod to drive a hook through plastic and then through the fish's mouth.

Burley is probably right... That's the only thing I can come up with besides a bad hookset.

i think i am getting a new setup should i get...

6'6 Fenwick eagle gt Medium

6'6 Fenwick eagle gt Medium/Heavy

7' Fenwick eagle gt Medium

7' Fenwick eagle gt Medium/Heavy

and would the medium/heavy take away from the sensitivity?

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and i also just got this setup so when should i use it?

and i also just got this setup so when should i use it?

 

Get the MH for sure either size should work, but bait casters work better than spinning for worms

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...but bait casters work better than spinning for worms

Really?

I don't know why baitcaster vs spinning gear pops up so often,

but either type of equipment will work just fine. Some "prefer"

one over the other for certain techniques, but that doesn't mean

it's "better".

BTW,

My rig for all unweighted soft plastics is a St. Croix Legend Elite,

ES70MF/ Stella 2500FB/ Ultra Soft #6. Most of the time I fish a

Gamakatsu 4/0 EWG Offset Worm Hook. My hook-up ratio is north

of 95% and once hooked-up, my landing ratio is significantly higher.

8-)

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Instead of changing your rod you should most definately take a real good close look to those hooks you are using.

BTW, did I mention I get really nice hooksets with a 6' ML rod and 6 lb test ? what hook I use ? ---> Owner.

i think i am getting a new setup should i get...

6'6 Fenwick eagle gt Medium

6'6 Fenwick eagle gt Medium/Heavy

7' Fenwick eagle gt Medium

7' Fenwick eagle gt Medium/Heavy

and would the medium/heavy take away from the sensitivity?

In my opinion action is at least as important as power in this discussion.  I fish weightless plastics with a M spinning rod with no real issues with the hooksets.  It's a pretty fast action rod though.  Another key is to skin hook the soft plastic (push the point of the hook all the way through the worm and then put just the point back in).  This way you won't have to drive the hook through much plastic in order to get the hook in the fish's mouth.  Also, how are you setting the hook?

The hook you are using definately isn't too small, it may actually be too big.

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Agree with R.W.

Spinning gear most likely is not the problem. I would look at hook sharpness. I take every hook and try to stick it into my thumbnail before tying it on. If it doesn't penetrate, I stone it sharp until it does. I believe I get a better hookset on my plastics with spinning gear anyway. I use 6'6" M.H. rod, 4000 Shimano reel, and 10-12 lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid. As the rod is in my right arm and I am right handed, I get a very powerful straight 3 o'clock to 12 o'clock hookset. Hook is usually where it should be- top of fishes mouth. Rod speed is the key to any hookset but a dull hook will cause a bigger hole in the fishes mouth therefore giving it more room to work it's way out. JMHO.

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Lose them once, bad luck, twice bad luck maybe three times, you're doing something wrong.

I use a med spinning rod 6/12 6'6 clarus with 10 # braid with no problems hooking them from 2/0 -4/0 hook.  Once I hook them I own em'.

Can't tell what type of weight/action the rod is of yours but I can tell you I get just fine hooksets with pretty light action rods.  The questions I would ask are:  how hard is your hook set motion, and what is your drag set to?

When you set the hook, do you end up peeling some drag?  If so, this is good but make sure your drag is not set too light otherwise it will be hampering your hookset.

I agree that the rod should not be a big issue.  I fish with 3/0 and 4/0 hooks most of the time and I have not had big issues with hooksets.   Try a 3/0 or an offset "plus" hook (the point is not aimed at the top of the hook).  Make sure that your hooks are sharp and try to yank that fish out of the water when you set that hook.  Also, I would try to not let the line go slack wit the fish.  Keep pressure on the fish and try to keep your rod tip down low to help keep the fish in the water and not jumping and throwing your bait.  It sounds like your stuff is fine for the worms.  Keep at it and you will ge the hang of it.

Everyone has given you great tips. Try to follow them and find out what the issue is.

I would like to also say that the eagle gt is not a stiff enough rod. I have 2 of them and they are pretty soft rods. Try getting a stiffer rod action like a x-fast. That way you can have a better hook sets. Just a thought for you.

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I primarly use spinning gear for plastics unless I'm throwing big ones in heavy cover. My rod of choice is the berkley tactix wacky rig series, which is 7' long and has a MH fast action. Gets great hooksets on most fish.

Fishing a worm that big I would go with a minimum of 14 pound test. Heavier line helps drive the hook through better as well.

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