You need to know your adversary, LMB are not capable of making long runs, so for a setup that is used primary for bass backing is fine and 75 yds of braid is more than enough. If your chances of hooking into something that has a bit more fight to it, I agree with Redline. For me it's only spinning gear and I spool all the way with braid, I never tie but tape to the spool. I have been spooled many times, but never in freshwater.not saying in can't happen but the likelyhood is very low.

Personally I keep it simple, my favorite brand is the one on sale, which is usally PP or Fins, no issues with these brands and I catch my fair share of fish.

I want to use 15# Suffix Performance Stretch baird on a 7'10" glass rod and Curado 50 or Calai 100 reel for cranks. Do you think the 15# braid is to small and will dig into itself and I should use a larger diameter braid or do you think it will cast OK without a lot of issues. Also what is your opinion of the Suffix Stretch Braid.

Thanks

Braided line and line guides have both come a long way. Modern verions can be used together with no problem. Possible exceptions may be with the very cheapest of guides or guide models without inserts (Recoils...) and even then you may be fine.

On the setups I use with braid, I use mostly Power Pro. I spool on enough backing to allow for about 100 yds. of the braid. Then I tape the backing down with electrical tape completely around the spool. Tie the braid over that and pull real tight. Never had a slip. Just spooled up a spinning outfit with 20lb braid and am going to try this with a leader for finesse/shakey heads and see how it works. This has enough backing to allow for more braid, just in case. Good vid on the albright knot.

Braided line and line guides have both come a long way. Modern verions can be used together with no problem. Possible exceptions may be with the very cheapest of guides or guide models without inserts (Recoils...) and even then you may be fine.

i have a rod with recoils that i use braid on for 3 years now with no wear.

I'm 100% shore angler I have 3 primary set-ups that are general purpose enough to get the job done.

6'6 MH Moderate action w/Power Pro. No backing - no slipping - on Curado 200E7.

7' M Fast action using 12lb. PLine (I miss Gamma ) on Curado 200E7.

6' UL Fast action with Stradic 1000FI spooled with 6lb. Fireline with mono backing and so far I can't get this one tuned right. It's just giving me a hardtime and so far I'm not feeling it.

I have had the PP bite in a couple times, but nothing that a quick unspool/rewind didn't fix. The Fireline Crystal (aka the very expensive dental floss) has a line profile that is making it very prone to biting into the residual spool material and the difference in backing mono size and the Fireline is contributing to the material biting in. I'm going to tape over the backing next, but this is getting to be a little much for a weekend warrior.

So, based on experience braid - great - no real issues with slip or bite on casting reel. The superline...the verdict is still out.

Good luck...

Jenn

I wouldn't recommend braid for shallow crankbaits, I'd stick with Mono, or strictly flouro for that application. JMO

I think braid with shallow cranks is okay, just use a softer powered rod so you don't rip hooks out. This works for me because I've lost too many fish in the weeds with mono and flouro.

I found this http://*.com/making-switch-braid/ to be informative and sensible. I would like hearing from some experinced anglers weather they do as well (or not).

Jim

Link doesn't seem to be working.

Link doesn't seem to be working.

Yer right, sorry all.

Here's the youtube version. Hope it works!

This guy's a tad 'different' but I like his approach.

jim

"...a tad 'different.."

Now I'm fixated on his lisp and hand motions...thanks Jim.

lol, check him out, he's caught a handful of teener sized bass. Pretty respectable IMO. His site provides some interesting articles as well.

I would be using braid on your combo.

I use braid for 1/2 my rods for a few years now with no signs of wearing on the guides or anywhere else.

Cheap braid with cheap dye will leave green junk behind on your reel and you will need to clean it once in a while.

I found power pro doesn't leave any junk.

All my setups (all baitcasters) are equipped with 65lb Spiderwire. Each one set up for different lures, all use polymer knots, no leaders, no mono-fill in the spools. Most spools now-a-days have holes to tie the braid into, and are built to handle braided line. If no holes, a clove hitch works to hold the line still.(Firefighter rope knot, works great) Only downfall to the braid is it will lose its color over timely use, but can be solved with green paint pen or a green sharpie marker.(or whatever color you use) I do a lot of heavy cover fishing down here in the Everglades, and we have these Snakeheads that are a fun catch too, so I dont take any chances on losing my fish. I also do a lot of bank fishing too, and take at least 3 with me. Also, if its the guides on the rods you are worried about, Berkley makes the Lightning Rod for a fair price around $50, I have 4 of them, and they are designed for superlines(braided). Im new to this forum, but I like the style. Hope I have been of some help. Keep your hooks sharp and line wet.

I'm 100% shore angler I have 3 primary set-ups that are general purpose enough to get the job done.

6'6 MH Moderate action w/Power Pro. No backing - no slipping - on Curado 200E7.

7' M Fast action using 12lb. PLine (I miss Gamma ) on Curado 200E7.

6' UL Fast action with Stradic 1000FI spooled with 6lb. Fireline with mono backing and so far I can't get this one tuned right. It's just giving me a hardtime and so far I'm not feeling it.

I have had the PP bite in a couple times, but nothing that a quick unspool/rewind didn't fix. The Fireline Crystal (aka the very expensive dental floss) has a line profile that is making it very prone to biting into the residual spool material and the difference in backing mono size and the Fireline is contributing to the material biting in. I'm going to tape over the backing next, but this is getting to be a little much for a weekend warrior.

So, based on experience braid - great - no real issues with slip or bite on casting reel. The superline...the verdict is still out.

Good luck...

Jenn

I like most of Berkley's stuff, but Fireline isn't too impressive, at least IMO.

I have had the PP bite in a couple times, but nothing that a quick unspool/rewind didn't fix. The Fireline Crystal (aka the very expensive dental floss) has a line profile that is making it very prone to biting into the residual spool material and the difference in backing mono size and the Fireline is contributing to the material biting in. I'm going to tape over the backing next, but this is getting to be a little much for a weekend warrior.

Jenn

I've tried to use Fireline Crystal as a leader with braid and it is terrible. I haven't determined exactly what happens but it pops right off at the knot. While I like most Berkley products, I, too, think fireline crystal is very pricey dental floss. Got sucked into buying it when it was on rebate but I won't buy it again.

Also, if its the guides on the rods you are worried about, Berkley makes the Lightning Rod for a fair price around $50

that would be the Lightning Rod Shock, not to be confused with the Lightning Rod

Yeah guys, I have to say that if the respooling doesn't feel good after this weekend, I'm pulling the Fireline off the Stradic and using the extra spool with PLine and respooling with mono.

I'll add that Thanksgiving I was out UL fishing and got 2 Perch (1 nice jumbo male 13"+, about 1.5 lbs) 3 Crappies and a sizable Pickerel on mono. Swapped over to the superline and 3 days skunked..nothin'..

3 days in a row skunked isn't leaving me warm and fuzzy with the Fireline on top of it being a total PITB.

I haven't seen a ceramic ringed guide that can't handle braid. the metal ringed guides...that's another story.

Now to expand on the braid a little more. it's not actually the braided line that is the problem.....it's the sediment that gets deposited on/in the line as you use it. That is what can be a potential problem on certain components that aren't up to the task.

that would be the Lightning Rod Shock, not to be confused with the Lightning Rod

Oh, OK, I didnt know there was another one, Bass Pro only shows the one, its orange and grey colored with cork handles if that helps.

The first time I used Power Pro 30lb. test on a Shimano Chronarch 100SF. I backed the line with monifilment 10lb. test,the line broke after several casts at the spool.I tried again the same thing happened,I thought this to be very rare,I also checked all the guides on my rod they were fine. Can any one offer any suggestions,this has never happened with any of the other types of line I have used.

Use 65 lb Spiderwire. If your gonna do it, go big or go home. Usually the 30# is 6# dia so its too thin, and breaks easily. 65# is 12# dia. You wont have any problems.

Since there is no stretch, braid has poor shock resistance. If you're doing a snap cast with heavy baits that may be the problem. 6# dia. line may get caught between the spool and frame. As suggested, 50-65# braid works well on a baitcaster.

Use 65 lb Spiderwire. If your gonna do it, go big or go home. Usually the 30# is 6# dia so its too thin, and breaks easily. 65# is 12# dia. You wont have any problems.

Break on what? Only time braid breaks if it has a weak spot, I'm primarily a snook/tarpon fisherman and I use only 15 or 20# braid, does everything just fine. I don't use anything heavier than 15# braid for LMB, no problems. I'm strictly spinning, don't really see the need for a b/c for the above mentioned fish.

Break on what? Only time braid breaks if it has a weak spot, I'm primarily a snook/tarpon fisherman and I use only 15 or 20# braid, does everything just fine. I don't use anything heavier than 15# braid for LMB, no problems. I'm strictly spinning, don't really see the need for a b/c for the above mentioned fish.

Ive had no luck with 30#, for some reason it seems to break on less than 30# of force, and its new line. I gave up and went big, but besides strength, it casts better for me since I use baitcasters. 30# works better for my spinners.