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"new Other" Reels On Ebay

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I own a few shimano chronarch 50mg and curado 100d reels but am always looking for a good deal on another one that is in good shape. I have noticed several "new other" reels listed on eBay lately. The sellers claim that they have owned these reels for a while now but never fished with them or don't offer any explanation at all. They haven't made these reels for 3 or 4 years now so I find it very unlikely that people still have these laying around unused.

Are people rebuilding these and trying to pass them off as new, or just lying if they kept theirs in great condition?

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Who would reengineer old reels? What exactly are "other reels"?

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Who would reengineer old reels? What exactly are "other reels"?

From Ebay:

"A new, unused item with absolutely no signs of wear. The item may be missing the original packaging, or in the original packaging but not sealed. The item may be a factory second or a new, unused item with defects. See the seller's listing for full details and description of any imperfections."

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You beat me to it Boogey Man. It just seems odd that reels that have been out of production for 4 or so years are surfacing when there is a pretty decent demand for them.

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Sounds like NOS factory seconds and defective returns. No way I would touch them with a ten foot pole.

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New old stock.

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What?!?!?! There are dishonest people looking to make a buck on ebay!!! Thats news to me.

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If they have good feedback then I wouldn't worry about it. They might have bought too many of them and left one of them in a closet and forgot about it.

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New old stock.

That's what I am - New Old Stock.

:eyebrows:

A-Jay

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If they have good feedback then I wouldn't worry about it. They might have bought too many of them and left one of them in a closet and forgot about it.

Exactly. How many folks here stocked up on Curado D's or E's, with no intentions of ever using them?

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I had bought several Chronarch 50mg's and kept 2 of them packed away for well over a year or two to sell later on.

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If they have good feedback then I wouldn't worry about it. They might have bought too many of them and left one of them in a closet and forgot about it.

x3. I will add that if you are really worried about it, ask plenty of questions and make sure there is a return policy and always pay by using PayPal.

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These are defective returns. What a retailer does is take all the returns, no matter the reason, and sells them at a cut rate. It's cheaper than dealing with returning to the supplier. The buyer then sells individual items on eBay. Common practice for DSG, Gander, etc.

Anyone that has done eBay for any time knows that 100% feedback doesn't mean anything.

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These are defective returns. What a retailer does is take all the returns, no matter the reason, and sells them at a cut rate. It's cheaper than dealing with returning to the supplier. The buyer then sells individual items on eBay. Common practice for DSG, Gander, etc.

Anyone that has done eBay for any time knows that 100% feedback doesn't mean anything.

He said these were new reels though and are from a seller not a manufacturer. I've bought some shimano b series reels that were new off ebay with no problem at all. 100% feedback doesn't mean that they are completely trustworthy but it is better than being below 100%. I've been dealing on ebay for a long time on both ends and if you go through Paypal the buyer can pretty much screw the seller for no reason. It is way harder nowadays to screw the buyer. I realize that there are some cases in which the buyers have been screwed but if they are listed as new reels they almost have to be perfect or eBay will make you refund the buyer if they complain. The only special cases I would stay away from are dealers that are out of country as ebay has little control over them. Just my 2 cents and I hope it will give you some peace of mind.

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He said these were new reels though and are from a seller not a manufacturer.

Correct. A store has a pile of returns. They are sold in lots to a 3rd party that sorts and resells on ebay, what don't you get? You can still sell items "as is" without warranty. Gander does it, Walmart does it, DSG does it, they all do it. How do I know? I've seen items resold on ebay with the defective return tags still on the item, LOL.

Again, I wouldn't touch this stuff with a ten foot pole. You are better off searching true sales from people that aren't pro ebayer - just need to get rid of some gear. They typically have less than 100 ratings, and you can tell by their other, closed listings what type of seller they are.

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Correct. A store has a pile of returns. They are sold in lots to a 3rd party that sorts and resells on ebay, what don't you get? You can still sell items "as is" without warranty. Gander does it, Walmart does it, DSG does it, they all do it. How do I know? I've seen items resold on ebay with the defective return tags still on the item, LOL.

Again, I wouldn't touch this stuff with a ten foot pole. You are better off searching true sales from people that aren't pro ebayer - just need to get rid of some gear. They typically have less than 100 ratings, and you can tell by their other, closed listings what type of seller they are.

I interpreted as it was just a regular seller not an outdoors type store. Then again I am not really following what you are saying lol. We probably have had different experiences then.

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Correct. A store has a pile of returns. They are sold in lots to a 3rd party that sorts and resells on ebay, what don't you get? You can still sell items "as is" without warranty. Gander does it, Walmart does it, DSG does it, they all do it.

We have a guy locally that does this. He gets trade ins defective/blemished rods and reels from bass pro shops then sells them at the local flea market for cheap( $40 PQ's $20 carbon lite rods etc.) But he also has some junk.. I've been lucky and had good sucess with this although i do get to hold and inspect the stuff before i buy it.

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You get to paw through it. Can't do that on ebay. ;)

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As long as the purchase is done thru Paypal, the buyer will 99.9% of the time be refunded if they are not happy.

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As it should be.

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There should be a more fair process, instead, dishonest people buy things, then get refunds while returning other items, or nothing at all. Regardless, as to the OP buying the reels, if he buys one, tries it out, finds it to be a lemon, he will most assuredly be refunded and perhaps might be able to keep the reel. I sell and buy a ton of stuff, reels and lures included, and I have purchased quite a few sweet deals, and out of the very few issues I have had, it's always with someone buying my stuff, then not paying.

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I have noticed some sellers have sold a bunch of reels yet use the same listings over and over. I have even noticed that one seller tries to pass the reels off as his own personal reels.

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I was dealing with a guy one time that had listed a '10 Megabass for something like $1800 and it was pretty humorous because he had no idea what he was really looking at. I mean...seriously? I ended up buying one for under $500 a couple days later.

I watch this guy from time to time, and buy/resell in lots is exactly what he does. He had a HUGE lot of Rapala Warts that he was trying to sell as "vintage" and pass them off to an unsuspecting buyer as Pre-Rap warts. He's had literally hundreds of reels from various manufacture for sale, from Shakespeare to Megabass, for instance. The guy, generally, knows what he's doing, in terms of listings, because he never brings up how they're treated or the overall cosmetic condition. It's funny how he does it, too. He'll take a picture of all sides of the reel except the one that's just got all kinds of rash on it. He's good at what he does, I guess, because he's always got stuff listed.

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