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[James Yalem]

For many years I used the improved clinck knot. I could tie it in seconds in the dark. But then in the early 1990's, I switched to braid line. The improved clinch does not work with braid line, but the palomar does. So for the last 20 years, I have used the palomar knot. Now without my reading glasses, I can't see the loops to tie knots like the improved clinch in low light. So I use the palomar knot.

[Capt.Bob]

Use them both, there both great knots and very reliable. I use the Improved clinch most, just because it takes less line most times, I usually can tie the clinch without leaving a tail that needs trimmed, not always but hard to do with the palomar, and as stated, impossible with cranks and bulky tackle.

[B@ssCrzy]

I use palomar for braid and improved clinch for mono. Both are great knots.

[thehooligan]

I use palomar for braid and improved clinch for mono. Both are great knots.

same here

[SirSnookalot]

For those that have had trouble using the improved clinch with braid, this a tip I saw on a inshore SW program, and it works. Before cinching down your knot give it an extra wrap around the loop. Personally I only do this when I'm offshore ocean, inshore the standard improved clinch works just fine.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I only use braid. I use the knot in the PowerPro manual -through the eye twice UNI knot - beat the palomar knot in the knot wars testing

[Basswhippa]

Used to use nothing but the improved clinch till I learned the Palomar now it's just about the only thing I use.

What OK Bss Hunter said!

[Bankbeater]

I use the palomar for jigs and plastics. I use the clinch knot for anything with a treble hook, or with spinnerbaits.

[Sam]

Sam, the machines used for knot strength I believe do not allow for a drag. In reality we do not fish with the drag locked down as tight as it goes, at least I don't. In no way am I questioning the strength of the palomar, just don't think a machine fishes like an experienced human.

Sir, of course you are correct.

But to take the same pressure for different knots and notice that the Palomar was heads and shoulders above the others, especially the two clinch knots, was interesting to witness.

So I use the Palomar knot excusively.

[A-Rob]

I use the palomar with mono and the improved clinch with fluro

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but i have switched to san diego jam for fc more recently and love it

[SirSnookalot]

Sir, of course you are correct.

But to take the same pressure for different knots and notice that the Palomar was heads and shoulders above the others, especially the two clinch knots, was interesting to witness.

So I use the Palomar knot excusively.

I'm not trying to convince anyone should change, just saying the clinch and improved clinch knot do the job.

[bigbassctchr101]

The palamor is the strongest of these two by far. I believe I heard the clinch is only 80% knot strength because the way its designed, it will cut into itself. That being said, I tie a palamor usually. With the exception of a crankbait. I can tie a clinch in about 15 seconds and I beat the bottom hard and have to re-tie a lot with my crankbaits. So, the knot will rarely ever be my weakest link...it will probably be the knicks and abrasion from beating on cover.
On flouro line I use a knot Shaw Grigsby ties on most baits (he didn't know the name of it), but its also designed not to cut into itself at all.
On braid I use a braid knot, except I double the line and do an extra half hitch thru the bottom loop.
Albright knot to cinch two lines together (mono-mono, braid-mono, all of it...)

[Jim_M]

San Diego Jam for lures including jigs. SO much easier for these tired industrial fingers.

Palomar for hooks.

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[KingMidas]

I exclusively use the improved clinch knot. If you tie it enough, you'll eventually get to a point where the time it takes becomes a non issue. While I'm sure that a Palomar knot is still quicker to tie, I can tie a clinch in about 15 seconds. Actually, I add an extra "locking" step to the improved clinch that I learned from the back of a pack of mustad hooks. It's hard to explain but essentially it involves putting the tag through the loop made when passing the tag through the original loop made in a normal improved clinch. I guess since I learned the Palomar when I was a kid I just assumed the improved clinch was better. More steps equated to a stronger knot in my mind. After reading some of these responses, however, I'm going to give the palomar a try once again. That being said, I love the way an improved clinch balls up solidly with fluorocarbon.

[DON1937]

I fished for several years in saltwater.....bays and surf and never knew the name of the knot I was using. Just now went to a site called Animated Knots and discovered that I was using the Palomar Knot all along.