Bone creek sounds good then, i fish butler all the time. I need to expand my lakes, so i can get better at finding the spots and locating bass since butler is just an easy read. i've never fished winfield but that would be a far drive for the people up north. I'm game for anything to the east of wichita, and since nuclear penguin is in pittsburg i can pick him up if he doesn't have his boat by then.