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Vary your cadence with different casts until you find what the fish want.

Man you are in for it now! Those things are like potato chips. You can't have just one! I'm up to somwhere around ten now. Good luck!

Do you have to leave home to fish????

I was not trying to link Iraq to the 9/11 attack directly but rather to the mindset of the nation toward the Muslim nations hostile to the USA. Congress did have time to consider all these things before voting to supporting war just as they did when they supported such an attack under President Bill Clinton if he deemed it necessary. Iraq's links to terrorists is debatable from both sides of the issue. I doubt we will ever know the unbiased truth of the matter. I am not all knowing and do not purport to know the way to fix this whole situation. I am glad it is not upon my shoulders as I can see how great a burden it would be to the one that daily bears it. Under international law however the war over Iraq invading Kuwait was still active and there was only a cease fire in effect conditional upon Iraq living up to the conditions set by the U.N. which Iraq almost daily violated by firing on American and British planes monitoring Iraqi compliance or violation of those conditions signed by Iraq. Saddam's Iraq defied 12 U.N. Security Council resolutions. All he had to do was comply with the cease-fire terms he signed. I know this gets down to legalese and picking things to pieces however most of the world's intelligence agencies and governments believed and stated the same conclusions as ours did pre-invasion. Did I feel the timing was bad? Yes, I did but I did not have all the information all these governments had and as we, all know governments are notorious for making major blunders whether they are our own or other nations'. Hindsight is always 20/20 and history will judge those who made the decisions then and those making them now. What I would like to see is for the men and women serving in the armed services treated with respect due those standing in harms way by order of our national leaders. Let politicians and their like hurt insults at each other since that seems to be the national pastime although I feel it demeans the nation as a whole. I see no honor in dishonoring a soldier in a combat zone, doing his duty, that could be dead tomorrow to satisfy some personal vendetta. That is my view.

#11. NO #12. Calm down just think about all the money I saved you. #13. You paid how much for THAT?

"I'll be back!" :-?

My Ex-Wife. Transformation

LBH after living in Wyoming for ten years where it got to -45 below zero with a wind chill of -100 below on occasion I rarely feel really cold anymore especially now that I am back home in my native state of Arkansas. I do however get some strange looks when I wear shorts and a t-shirt when it is 40 degrees here! (Heat wave )

You know what "they" say the first thing to go is your memory. Oh darn! Now I forgot the point I was going to make. :

PETA's Dirty Secret Hypocrisy is the mother of all credibility problems, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has it in spades. While loudly complaining about the "unethical" treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, the group has its own dirty little secret. PETA kills animals. By the thousands. From July 1998 through the end of 2005, PETA killed over 14,400 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" -- at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 90 percent of the animals it took in during 2005 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing. Year Received Adopted Killed Transferred % Killed % Adopted 2005 2,145 146 1,946 69 90.7 6.8 2004 2,640 361 2,278 1 86.3 13.7 2003 2,224 312 1,911 1 85.9 14.0 2002 2,680 382 2,298 2 85.7 14.3 2001 2,685 703 1,944 14 72.4 26.2 2000 2,684 624 2,029 28 75.6 23.2 1999 1,805 386 1,328 91 73.6 21.4 * 1998 943 133 685 125 72.6 14.1 Total 17,806 3,047 14,419 331 80.1 17.1 * figures represent the second half of 1998 only other than spay/neuter animals » skeptical? click here to see the proof On its 2002 federal income-tax return, PETA claimed a $9,370 write-off for a giant walk-in freezer, the kind most people use as a meat locker or for ice-cream storage. But animal-rights activists don't eat meat or dairy foods. So far, the group hasn't confirmed the obvious -- that it's using the appliance to store the bodies of its victims. In 2000, when the Associated Press first noted PETA's Kervorkian-esque tendencies, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk complained that actually taking care of animals costs more than killing them. "We could become a no-kill shelter immediately," she admitted. PETA kills animals. Because it has other financial priorities. PETA raked in nearly $29 million last year in income, much of it raised from pet owners who think their donations actually help animals. Instead, the group spends huge sums on programs equating people who eat chicken with Nazis, scaring young children away from drinking milk, recruiting children into the radical animal-rights lifestyle, and intimidating businessmen and their families in their own neighborhoods. PETA has also spent tens of thousands of dollars defending arsonists and other violent extremists. PETA claims it engages in outrageous media-seeking stunts "for the animals." But which animals? Carping about the value of future two-piece dinners while administering lethal injections to puppies and kittens isn't ethical. It's hypocritical -- with a death toll that PETA would protest if it weren't their own doing. PETA kills animals. And its leaders dare lecture the rest of us. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Fur's flying outside N.C. courthouse as cruelty case comes to trial The Center for Consumer Freedom, which opposes PETA and its practices, brought this billboard on a truck to the courthouse in Winton, N.C., where two PETA employees stand accused of animal cruelty. WINTON, N.C. They were not the questions lawyers might usually ask when picking a jury for a felony case. Do any of you have any pets? District Attorney Valerie Asbell asked 12 potential jurors Monday as the trial for two PETA workers accused of animal cruelty got under way . To each pet owner, she asked whether the animals were indoor or outdoor pets, whether they were regularly taken to see a veterinarian and if any had ever adopted from a shelter. Defense lawyers also asked potential jurors about their interests in hunting and fishing, magazine subscriptions and whether any had ever euthanized a pet. In a trial to determine the guilt or innocence of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals workers Adria Hinkle of Norfolk and Andrew Cook of Virginia Beach, the answers potential jurors offered were important to the case, according to lawyers for the prosecution and defense. The pair are being tried together this week in Hertford County Superior Court on 21 counts of felony animal cruelty, seven counts of littering and three counts of obtaining property by false pretenses. Ahoskie Police say that on June 15, 2005, the two were arrested after officers observed them dump several bags of dead animals into a grocery store trash container. Police said they also found more dead animals in the pair's van and a digital camera with images of living and dead animals. The trial has generated a lot of interest that drew a strange brew of spectators to the small town of Winton on Monday. Local and national news media mingled with PETA staff, supporters and opponents, such as a legal analyst from the National Association for Biomedical Research and the director of research for the Center for Consumer Freedom. The Center for Consumer Freedom, which opposes PETA and its practices, paid for a mobile billboard on a truck that pulled into the Hertford County Courthouse parking lot about 30 minutes before potential jurors were to report for duty. It also purchased a full-page advertisement in Monday's New York Times. Both promoted the group's Web site, which will offer updates posted from the trial by David Martosko, the coalition's director of research. Martosko agreed to have the sign moved in time for the jury pool's lunch break Monday after he met with the judge. The billboard was scheduled to tour around Ahoskie on Monday afternoon, according to a news release from the group. Jury selection will continue this morning at the Hertford County Courthouse. Superior Court Judge Cy Grant said trial proceedings should begin at 1:30 p.m. PETA Trial, Day 3 1/25/07 "Adria and Andy were simply doing their jobs to euthanize the animals." That's Blair Brown -- a lawyer for one of two PETA employees on trial for felony animal cruelty -- virtually summing up the defense's strategy during his opening statement yesterday. Brown and the rest of PETA's legal team don't deny that the two defendants -- Adria Hinkle and Andrew Cook -- killed (at least) 31 dogs and kittens in June 2005. They don't deny that the two threw the dead bodies into a dumpster. And they don't deny that what Hinkle and Cook did is standard practice for a group that wants constitutional rights for pigs. The flimsy justification for the pro-animal-rights/pro-animal-killing hypocrisy touted by PETA folks inside and outside the courtroom has been that euthanizing these animals is more humane than keeping them in overcrowded shelters. But that begs the question: If local shelter conditions really are that bad, and the preservation of animal life is PETA's singular purpose, why didn't they adopt the animals themselves? Maybe the home they'd provide is less than ideal -- but it's certainly better than being dead. Then again, when you spend so much of your $25 million budget on tasteless billboards, props for naked protests, and disturbing comic books, there's probably not much cash left to care for real-live animals. Other than the mind-blowing hypocrisy of PETA ordering its employees to kill pets, the real stunner so far is how Hinkle and Cook convinced people to hand over the animals in the first place. Today, the local district attorney read into the record this conversation between the Bertie County (NC) Animal Control Officer Barry Anderson and Adria Hinkle -- the person suspected of actually killing the animals: Anderson: "Do you think you can find homes for these animals?" Hinkle: "Yes. No problem. Absolutely." PETA Trial Day 4: Toby, Annie, and a Drug Bust in the Making January 25, 2007 | Day Four is in the books, and the complexion of the PETA-Kills-Animals trial has changed completely. While yesterday's testimony focused on the nuts and bolts of what happened prior to the arrest of two PETA employees in June 2005, today's was far more emotionally taxing. Did you know that some of the dogs allegedly killed by Adria Hinkle had names? We didn't either. But Bertie County (NC) Animal Control Officer Barry Anderson testified today that two Dalmatians named Toby and Annie -- dogs he described as "just healthy, playful, and well-fed" -- were among the animals he naively turned over to Hinkle and her PETA coworker Andrew Cook on June 15, 2005. They came to the shelter to take all the dogs that were not being quarantined or on hold for any reason and take them back to Virginia My understanding was that if it's an animal that's good or adoptable, you try to find homes for them especially the two Dalmatians that were running around. And I asked her [Hinkle] if she thinks that those two dogs were adoptable. And she said yes, you know, she thought that they shouldn't have a problem at all finding homes for those Dalmatians. Toby and Annie were the subject of some serious legal wrangling this morning, as Hinkle's lawyer tried to bar Anderson from describing that conversation. Defense attorneys claimed that Anderson's recollection of the conversation was not included in the "discovery" materials provided to them by the prosecution. But the D.A. searched her notebooks and satisfied Judge Cy Grant's curiosity, so Anderson was allowed to share it with the jury. Ahoskie, NC newspaper editor Cal Bryant reported this morning (in the Roanoke-Chowan News-Herald ) that unnamed "PETA officials attending the trial" now acknowledge Hinkle killed animals from Anderson's shelter -- including these two Dalmatians -- while the PETA van was still in the shelter's parking lot. Presumably, this was just minutes after Hinkle assured Anderson that the dogs were adoptable. Jurors may never hear this disturbing detail, but coffee shops in Ahoskie are buzzing about it. Anderson was optimistic that PETA would give these animals (and all the others that eventually turned up dead) a good-faith effort at adoption. He even handed over his own dog to Hinkle -- a spirited terrier that he and his wife had trouble housebreaking: I knew that the dog was a very good dog, but we weren't that successful with it. You know, we were gone most of the time, the kids were at school and so forth, and I knew that by talking to Ms. Hinkle that she could possibly find a home for it, someone that was looking for a good dog To my understanding, she found a home for it in Virginia. His dog's name was Happy. Not even PETA could make this stuff up. Another episode that made some jurors visibly uncomfortable concerned incriminating documents recovered from the PETA van Adria Hinkle was driving when she and Andrew Cook were arrested. At PETA, it seems, the animal-killing isn't complete until the paperwork is done. Hinkle and Cook, it emerged today, kept a "Fieldwork Data Log" describing all the animals they collected and dispatched to The Big Doghouse in the Sky. Each line on the log has a space to record an animal's breed, sex, age, and condition. Here are just a few of the actual examples read into evidence, as Hinkle and Cook described them: Breed: Beagle Sex: Female Age: 6 months Condition: Adorable Breed: Schnauzer Sex: Male Age: Born Condition: Perfect Breed: BSH [british Shorthair cat] Sex: Female Age: 7 years Condition: Pregnant Question: If these defendants weren't PETA employees, who do you think would be outside

I go with what I have now, a pontoon boat on a lake, but I have to say the most fun to me is a sit on top kayak in a small clear north Arkansas river full of smallies.

Bettlespins work on the shallow rivers for wade fishermen here in northern Arkansas for smallmouth in pumpkin and in chartreuse colors but it's not the best lure by far, because the pan fish hit it more often than the smallies. Here the crawfish imitating lures are a better and more consistent catcher of smallmouth. Both the lakes and rivers here are extremely rocky and the crawfish tend to be smaller but where you are I would suggest turn over some rocks and find some of the native crawfish. Then try to come close to that color with your lure even if you have to do some custom color alterations yourself to a lure. Hula grubs also work and again try to come close to natural colors if the water where you are is very clear as it is here. If not then you may want to go with colors to contrast depending on the color of the water. There are a buch of good articles here on hula grubs on this site. http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/features.html#lures

Growing up in extreme southern Arkansas I dated a Cajun girl and she was the most beautiful sweet wonderful girl I ever dated. There was only one problem. There was zero sparks between us so we became best friends rather than boyfriend and girlfriend. From that time and watching others dating Cajun girls I can give one piece of advice Never Ever Cheat on a Cajun girl. Why? I will leave that to your imagination but they will track you down and make you pay dearly! Boy am I glad that was not me!!!!!

I give thanks for this site and all the people here also. It was the first forum that really got me into forums and it is still my favorite where I feel at home. While I am on a number of other NON-fishing forums (and even a moderator on a military one now) so I don't spend as much time here as I would like to this is the best forum and site bar none on the web!!!

Try a .460 Weatherby without a muzzle break and you too can make a video. OUCH!

There is a question as to the veracity of the business owner however since the business is run out of the owners home according to news reports. Was there a firing of an employee or was that a statement issued for public consumption to douse the flames of the fire that the original email from the company started? The owner refuses to answer any further questions. So far, no one seems to know what the truth is. On 9/11 as I and many of you watched in shock and horror as many of my fellow Americans were murdered before our eyes on our TV screens I new this meant war one way or another. While many feel Iraq and 9/11 are not related, I disagree because the mindset of the nation changed after that event. The nation as a whole was mad and wanted to strike back at "them". Now that years have passed and we have daily watched Iraq drag on and on the nation has grown weary of seeing Americans die and wonder for what end. Being a Vietnam Era veteran, I feared this very thing happening having lived through the short attention span of the majority of Americans during another war. It makes me wonder though why my father and grandfathers generations were so different though. During their wars, they lost more dead on some days than we have lost during the whole Iraq war. Now whether we like or dislike, should have or should not have gone to war in Iraq, are debates that should have been fought before the vote was taken in Congress. I have heard many excuses from congressmen and senators but they had the intelligence from multiple government sources and even other nation's intelligences. Al this bickering is being beamed via TV directly to our enemies where I am sure they laugh and dance at our national lack of resolve as they so such in their press releases. So, I for one support the soldier in the field until he or she is safely home, period. I never forgot my home coming in uniform were I was greeted by being spat on in my face and see those same views coming out today in this country. I hope the news media keeps digging to find the truth about that business owner. If it is true that he fired the employee or if it was a lie. We all have freedom of speech but not all speech is free nor allowed under law. We also have freedom to not do business with that company or with those that do. All freedoms come at a price and some are not willing to pay the price for those freedoms. Some want to punish those that won and keep those freedoms while they abuse those same freedoms. Those of us who have seen our friends die for those freedoms sometimes find it hard to be as tolerant of such people as perhaps we might be but old wounds sometimes never heal. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GIs in Iraq Get Their Mats After Enduring Insult From Web-Based CompanyWednesday, January 24, 2007 All he asked of a Web-based mattress company was to send mats so he and his fellow GIs wouldn't have to sleep on the cold, bug-invested ground of one of the harshest posts in Iraq. What he got, instead, was an insult, a slur aimed at every American soldier enduring the hardships of duty. "I was appalled at the response," Sgt. Jason Hess told FOX News in an email received Tuesday afternoon from Iraq a day after his story was told. "A simple response would have been, I'm sorry but we do not ship overseas." Hess, part of the 1st Cavalry Divison, is stationed in Taji, a former Republican Guard stronghold, and one of the toughest outposts in Iraq. Last week, Hess emailed Discount-Mats.com to ask if he could purchase mats so he and his unit did not have to endure the constant assault from sand mites, sand flies and other disease carriers that inhabit the ground. In his email, dated Jan. 16, 2007, he asked the company, registered to Faisal Khetani, an American Muslim of Pakistani descent: "Do you ship to APO (military) addresses? I'm in the 1st Cavalry Division stationed in Iraq and we are trying to order some mats but we are looking for ships to APO first." On the same day, Hess received this reply: "SGT Hess, We do not ship to APO addresses, and even if we did, we would NEVER ship to Iraq. If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq. Bargain Suppliers Discount-Mats.com" Discount-Mats.com is run out of Khetani's home in West Allis, Wis. In a telephone interview Tuesday with FOX News, Khetani said he had fired the employee who sent the email, a claim that FOX News has not been able to confirm. He also said he has received thousands of phone calls to his home and business from people protesting the email exchange. Hess said that he has since found two mat suppliers who shipped to an APO address in Iraq. Meanwhile, FOX News has received thousands of emails asking how to donate mats and other items to U.S. soldiers in Iraq. Rob Timmons, an Iraq veteran and a veteran outreach coordinator, recommended the following Web sites: http://www.iava.org www.army.mil

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/535593.html Animal-rights group employees charged in dumping of dead dogs, cats Kristin Collins, Staff Writer WINTON - All around this struggling farm town, chicken houses stand in the fields as a testament to the way many here earn their living -- raising, slaughtering and processing chickens. It is an unlikely locale for an unlikely criminal case. Today, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a radical animal-rights group that opposes meat-eating, are on trial for the strangest of charges: killing animals. PETA is based in Norfolk, Va., but its work has international scope. The group, which raises more than $25 million a year from 1.6 million supporters, opposes any human use of animals, whether for food, fashion or research. In the more than two decades since its founding, it has become a major threat to medical researchers, meatpackers, fur sellers and others. Now, two of its employees stand accused of tossing garbage bags full of euthanized cats and dogs into a Dumpster behind a Piggly Wiggly in Hertford County, 130 miles northeast of Raleigh. Adria J. Hinkle and Andrew B. Cook, both of whom work in PETA's Norfolk office, are charged with 21 counts each of animal cruelty, a felony that can carry prison time, along with littering and obtaining property by false pretenses. It is a strange turn of events for PETA. The group's supporters have often been prosecuted for their radical efforts to protect animals -- breaking into fashion shows to throw blood on fur-wearing models, liberating lab animals, showing gory videos outside the circus -- but PETA has never been accused of hurting animals. Those who oppose PETA are seizing on the trial. The spectacle also has drawn a gaggle of lawyers, PETA staffers, reporters and curious onlookers to this rural county seat, where the small brick courthouse resembles an aging elementary school. They sat through two days of jury selection -- longer than for many murder trials -- during which lawyers struggled to find jurors who weren't close friends or business associates of any of the more than 60 witnesses. Several potential jurors were thrown out after saying they had read about the case, gossiped about it at work or formed strong opinions about PETA. Defense attorneys threw out a handful of farmers and avid hunters but left three people on the jury who work for a Perdue slaughterhouse a few miles from Winton. Now, jurors will decide whether Hinkle and Cook were, as PETA argues, providing humane deaths to animals that would otherwise have been painfully killed in gas chambers -- or whether, as several local officials say, they were taking animals on the promise of finding them homes and secretly killing them. A PETA spokeswoman, Kathy Guillermo, said PETA never wanted to get into the business of euthanizing animals. But she said the group couldn't ignore the horrible conditions in animal shelters around Norfolk and in northeastern North Carolina. The group now euthanizes thousands of animals a year. "Euthanasia is a better alternative to sitting in a stinking pound," Guillermo said. PETA opponents are drawing attention to this little-known facet of the group's work. On Monday morning, the Washington D.C.-based Center for Consumer Freedom, an anti-PETA group funded by restaurants and meat producers, drove a mobile billboard truck reading "PETA: As Warm and Cuddly as You Thought?" past the courthouse. David Martosko, research director for the group, described the case as a gift in his fight to discredit PETA. He plans to monitor the entire trial. "Most people would not believe, if you told them two years ago, that PETA kills animals. They'd say, 'What? They're the bunny huggers,' " Martosko said. Martosko and Stephanie Maltz, a lawyer with the Foundation for Bio-Medical Research, a Washington, D.C., group that lobbies for animal testing, paid a visit Monday night to the trash bin where the animals were dumped. It was dark, and a man with a flashlight was rooting through the garbage, but Maltz was undeterred. She jumped out of the car and took a picture of the grime-stained container for her group's Web site.

Sometimes things happen and when they do they seem to come in groups. One thing is always certain buddy and that is "this too will pass". Who knows why? I sure wonder sometimes but you have a lot of people praying and pulling for you which is always a great thing! It's when you are in need when find out who your true friends are and you have a buch here cheering you on brother so have fun at Fork and get well soon!!! Avid! Avid! Avid!

Let us all keep Avid in our thoughts and prayers for his surgery to go fantastic and a speedy recovery!

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Hey, Muddy Man, do you want to go on a canoe trip here in the Ozarks on a white water river? There is free music (battling banjos) but you can provide the entertainment. Oh and you may meet some reel Red Necks along the way. Dogpatch and Evening Shade are a short drive but I would suggest not going to Dogpatch around Sadie Hawkens Day. PS I just saw "Deliverance" again. You pickin on all the cousins and such, reminded me.

Well if you have not then come on up to Bull Shoals in north central Arkansas where all the fish have PHDs and the fishermen have headaches from trying to figure these darn bass out and I bet you will! The bass around here are enough to give pro's a migraine.

Welcome to the forum.

First, welcome to the forum. One thing I noticed a long time ago was how often guys in boats cast as close to the banks as possible before starting their retrieves while guys on banks seemed to ignore the banks and cast as far away from the bank as they could to fish. Where I fish the area from the bank to fifteen feet out from the bank are generally the most productive. So in answer to your question, Heck YES you can catch bass from the bank. When I was about 15 years old one hit so hard he darn near made me fall off the spillway into the water. Good luck and tight lines!