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Raul, Sorry for the confusion, but this was the post you were quoted from. There was no mention of round or low profile, so no way for us to know if you meant one or the other. A serious question if I may- when did you last purchase an Abu reel and which models do you own? 1987-'88 is a LONG time ago...

Oh no... another one of those d*mn liberal pacifists! Not a chance steve, I'm one of the most uptight conservatives on the entire forum!

jetsprint2, Do you have a link to the actual weights or some comparisons with like GLX models? This claim has been made a few times but never substantiated. I'd sure like to see the published weights, I'm sure other would also.

I agree 100%

Well, after reading Alpster's post... I say buy the boat and just don't smile with teeth.

Both are incredible role models... too bad only one of them could take home the trophy. Maybe next season Coach Smith will get it- that would be cool.

As evidenced by this and the black whitetailed deer thread that have post counts that keep shrinking instead of growing. :-?

In all fairness there was a recall of Shimano reels very recently... still waiting to see the Revo recall. I don't care what people buy... I use both Shimano and Abu (including the Revo) and like both. But I won't hesitate to call a spade a spade. Seriously though, what's not to like? The Revo has a monster drag, drive train, holds plenty of line only weighs 8.5 oz., casts and retrieves extremely smooth and has a very comfortable profile... and starts at $99. I think that until there is a major trend of failures or some wide ranging recall it would be irresponsible to say it's not a good reel to consider within it's price points. Roadwarrior, I'd like to respectfully challenge that statement. How about the recall of Shimano this past year? Does that mean all Shimanos are problematic? Of course not, just as a bad model by Abu doesn't mean that all them were bad. I had a Bantam Mag 10SG in the 80's that wasn't great, does that qualify me to post here that Shimano has a "questionable reputation"? Absolutely not. To just take yourself and Raul as the sampling for Abu's quality history isn't a sound argument. I bet I've owned as many Abu's as both of you combined. (I am only 36 years old, but started baitcasting before age 9) Of the 20+ Abu reels I have owned, I only had trouble with one... which was quickly fixed by the local service center and described as a greased part that wasn't supposed to be greased. Maybe all of my fishing partners, friends and brothers have all been super lucky and just happened to have gotten only good Abu reels... certainly possible- but somehow I think your experience is the rarer of the two. Come on guys, Abu and Shimano should be like peanutbutter and jelly!! They CAN live side by side in harmony! ;D

Until this past year, I would have been the Roadwarrior equivalent in the Abu Posse, I might have qualified as the sherrif or at least a high ranking deputy. ...lol I still own more Abu reels than Shimano but the usage edge goes to Shimano... purely a credit to the 50 MG's weight. IMO the Revo line is a hit and will prove to be an incredible series of reels. It will take a few years to prove that but we have time. ...lol I'd like to tie them together on a 100 yds of braid and just see who how fast the scorpion gets stung. ...lol The scorpion is lighter and maybe a little smoother but that's all... the revo would beat it up in short order. All in good clean fun, this was an Abu thread! ;D

Shellback, Just to clear it up for you... the motto was 100% true until All Star was bought out. The only rods made outside the US are the Classic series... the rest are still made here. The Classics are still a great value and will compare to ANY rod in it's price range.

Wow, bold predictions!! I like both teams so as long as it's a good game, I don't care who wins. (this might be ythe first time ever for that!)

I guess that makes sense, I'm sure you have ice.... I was thinking about people in the southern portions of the US who don't have ice to worry about.

Do you have a link to the published weights or a listing of the like models actual weights? I know that many of us would appreciate the info.

So I have a question for you guys who are already packed... are you done fishing until the trip?? I can't ever seem to pack or organize more than a few days ahead because I'll end up using it again or unpacking it looking for something! I admire those who can pack light, I'm a "what if" packer! ...lol

Neat pic, that fawn can't be more than a couple days old! How did you offend our anti hunting members? Saw the other post...

rosewalt, Roadwarrior's answer was just long for "it works well for any technique" ...lol

Upon further review, I want to add a couple notes. t-rig- I think this should be your lightest most sensitive and most expensive rod, period. It needs to have the best feel and best casting range since you'll be also fishing light weights with it sometimes. Balance is also key in this one. c-rig doesn't need to be as light or sensitive since you are pulling a slip leader against either a weight or a fish... takes way less to figure out and always plenty of weight to cast. Light and sensitive are good but less critical IMO than the t-rig.

Muddy, Well even if you get 10 responses for each type, you will probably get 7-8 definitions/set of preferences. I really believe that "it's the Indian, not the arrow." I think you'll see a stark contrast in rod choices. Now that I made my opinion next to worthless, here goes. ...lol And remember this is only the opinion of one guy who cut his teeth in east Tx. (where a Hvy fast is just the everyday average rod for dragging fish out of docks, weeds and timber/brush.) worm rods: T-rig- I like a Hvy(or MH in St.Croix) fast. I like 6'6" up to 6'10". (Loomis MBR 784, 785 and AllStar Jig II) My personal preference is a rock solid backbone ( "mag bass" type of taper ) since the vast majority of my big fish have come on the t-rig. call me crazy but 7' and t-rigs don't mix with me unless I'm fishing brute water and need an X-Hvy, which is only a few places. Just an odd preference thing I guess. C-rig- 7'- Hvy are all my C-rig rods. I would probably like em' longer but my rodboxes are only 7'2" long. :-/ I actually prefer a stiff tipped rod for c-rig and the reason is this- I always fish enough weight that I can tight line check against the weight w/out moving it, and my biggest weakness (hate to admit it) is a smooth sweeping hookset. I find that with my type of sweep, the more of a broomstick I have the higher % of hookups I get. Senko/Super Fluke/Bass Assasin is the same rod for me- 6' 10" or 7' MH (you'll see in a minute that the only Med. I own is a spinning rod) in either mod-fast or fast. I used the old model Loomis MBR844 IMX (which was a mod-fast) as the fluke/senko rod for several years. When I started building rods I ended up with a 6' 10" All Star Jig 1 as my fluke and senko rod. (it's not as heavy as the label says and fishes these baits great for me.) I'm a total novice cranker... but I just build a St.Croix MH mod cranking blank and love it in the pool. Haven't used it on the lake yet. Topwater is my odd group... I am alone as far as anyone I have ever fished with on this one. I use the c-rig rod (7' H or X-H fast) for the frog -normal. And for a buzzbait I use a Hvy fast or Hvy x-Fast prefer 7' and then I use my fluke rod for any topwater with trebles and back off the drag or the spinning rod if I go to zara puppy size baits. My token spinning rod is an SCIII (Avid) ML casting blank built up as a spinning rod. It draws all small cranks, finese worming, and whatever else I use on light line. It's an 8-10 lb line rod most of the time. I've never fish shiners so I don't have a clue what makes a good shiner rod or any live bait rod. Not sure that helps much after reading it... I need a fly rod to break it up much. ...lol

As always, you guys inspire me- to work harder and to never give in to self pitty. I keep up with this thread in a "read only" because I want to post and then realize I'm just not in a position to post... My ailments are most likely only temporary. I had rotator cuff surgery about 14 months ago. I spent about 6 months getting to where I could reel a spinning reel with that hand... since then I made great progress and almost got back to 100%. I had a mishap a few months ago that feels like a partial re-tear. I have good and bad days but every time I have a bad day I come back to this thread and you guys change that for me. I'm pretty confident that with disciplined rehab I can "re-recover" w/o another surgery. But I have to check this thread for some motivation and the occasional "gut-check." This was just a really long way to say thank you, to you guys for sharing your strenghts, weaknesses, injuries, illnesses and inspirations. From the "silent" members- not a single post has gone unnoticed. I hope and pray that we will eventually have no members in this club! If there is anything I can offer, please feel free to ask, I would like to start giving back. My best to all, Keith

Consider it good experience and a lesson learned. I also ran into that early on... I was cutting seats down for the reel to be used which was great until I went from Abu to Shimano and had seats that were 1/8" short! Now I cut everything to my longest reel. The solution is easy, I give the rods to someone who uses the intended reels! ...lol I kept one that's short because it's an SCV blank... it's just a gram lighter than it should be. ...lol You can build up the area in front of the seat if you want, sort of an extended ramp, so to speak. The possibilities are endless on ramps.

I know you wouldn't. I used "my bow" as representative of Abu owners at large. ...lol I probably didn't word it as gentle as I meant it. I was laughing to myself when I replied. But upon review, it comes across much like I was actually offended. I will follow up with a PM, but know that I did not take offense. I am surprised that your reels didn't hold up, I used (still do actually) a couple 5500's for striper fishing and those particular reels double as my saltwater reels.... the same 3 are over 12 years old and all 3 work very close to the way they did out of the box. Although, you said '76 and that's before my time with Abu started so for all I know they could have been crappy. I think your experience would have been wildly different had you tried them when the C3's came out. I think it's safe to say that the revo's are a little better than what you had. ...lol That puzzles me also... but either way I think they mean for largies, not striper.

Seriously? You are going to compare Abu reels to the grenada? Well, I can't say I'm surprised, Sheriff... but I didn't expect to have to duck a low shot across my bow. ...lol I bet there are a few hundred thousand round reel owners of who would take exception to your abu comments... pretty stereotypical for someone who is very careful and specific in what he reccommends to others. Also careless in the sense that what you use is typically 4-5 times the pricepoint of what you bashed... apples to oranges at best. I have owned a few shimano low end (grenada) products... not everything they make is great. I have also owned about 20 round abu's that have not only stood the test of time very well, they perform much like new after so many years of rough use and many also used in saltwater. I am a posse member, but not blind to the rest of the world. Now, I absolutely love my Chronarchs but the reality is that it will be another 10-15 years before I can say that my shimano reels have held up as well as my $30-$60 Abu reels have. How many years do you wait before trying a new product? And purely to satisfy my curiosity, what model Abu reels did you have? (if you say list spinning reels I won't be surprised) Next time load it with rocksalt!! ;D

I can vouch for the Revo S but I can't say anything in comparison as I don't have and never had a pflueger. If you search revo in this section, there have been 5 or 6 reviews and all have been overwhelmingly positive. I don't think I have ever had a finer reel at $99... in fact you'd have to double that and then some to get a reel I like better than my Revo S. Let me say this- I like it better than my TD-Z BBS which is over 3 times the cost of the Revo S. It is that good. It's a smooth, well built, fine handling reel. And it's built like a tank in terms of strength but surprisingly light for what it is. It's actually a great reel for flipin' & pitchin' as it has an incredible drag, which is rated to 25lbs!! I can only say it's smooth up to the point I've used it with 20# XT... throwing swimbaits.

Glad to have another tyer here. I've been tying for about 7-8 years... almost exclusively bass and saltwater flies.... (nothing smaller than about a size 4 or 6 hook) I don't have the dexterity in my fingers to tie the little stuff. ...lol I have good eyes but that alone doesn't cut it. ...lol There are a few shrimp and crab patterns that can easily be adapted to craws and the baitfish patterns are great for bass. (large and small mouth!) I have some others bookmarked on the office computer, that will pertain to fresh water and trout specifically. No worries, it will get moved shortly. tight loops- keith I will try to remember to get a box of flies out tomorrow and smap a pic or two of some of my ties.

One is supposed to be a little more abraison resisitant than the other and a little less flexible... if memory serves correctly the blue label is the stiffer more abraision resistant one. (I think they used red & blue for all of us berkley users. ...lol) I have used both, red on spinning gear and blue on baitcast, both worked well and I will continue to use both as needed.