dodgeguy

Back then it was a 1 year warranty.. It depended what associate you got after 1 year was up. Now it's 10.

Just got my BPS MASTER CATALOG today. I was looking through it and noticed all BPS Johnny Morris rods now have a 10 year warranty. And that is with no price increase. From the Carbonlite to the Patriot this applies. I know I'm going to pick up another Patriot for my birthday since I love the one I have. For $199 I don't think I you can do better than that. The rods are extremely light and well balanced. They have Fuji SIC micro guides which I love. They are strong too. I caught many hard pulling fish on my 7ft medium fast Patriot last year.And on top of that the Patriot is made in USA.

I've seen braid go through aluminum oxide. Never seen it go through alconite.

Just clean and lube it and you'll be fine. I've heard Lews service is excellent if needed.

You Get the same system in the tournament pro. Yours is a nicer reel especially with the finish on it. Tournament Pro is more in my budget. People have no idea what they are missing if they have never fished one.

Do you know how to read in context? I said Aluminum oxide guides are substandard garbage at that price. Nowhere in there did it say all Kigan guides are garbage. When you leave "at that price " off the sentence it is no longer in context and doesn't mean what I said. I later clarified that ANY MANUFACTURERS ALUMINUM OXIDE GUIDE WOULD BE SUBSTANDARD GARBAGE AT THAT PRICE INCLUDING FUJI. Do we get it now ? I don't care who makes the rod or the guide ALUMINUM OXIDE guides on a rod over $200 is inexcusable IMHO. I also didn't say they had to be sic. I said they should at least be alconite IMHO . ALCONITE would be fine in that range. If that rod had them I would have bought it.

This is exactly why I stick with bps rods.i buy the more expensive ones but IMHO they are just as good as rods double the price.

Reread it. I did not say Kigan guides as a entire line were not good. I said at that price point aluminum oxide guides are substandard garbage. That would be true even with Fuji guides which I love. Aluminum oxide is bottom line no matter who makes them.Aluminum oxide belongs on rods under $100 unless you just like paying to much. Would it have killed them to step up to alconite? I think not. That would have been an awesome rod with alconites.

You might want to look at Lews super duty wide speed spool. 95 mm handle 14 lbs drag. Handle side aluminum sleep plate. High capacity spool. Brass gears. 5.1 ratio. Doesn't get much more classic cranking reel than that.

Didn't say Kigan guides were no good. I only said aluminum oxide IMHO wasn't what I would accept at that price range.

Thats the brake system and low spool weight. Great reels.

I wouldn't go over 8lb. I would stick with seguar invisx or tatsu. I personally hate flouro because of management issues .

Then there is the externally adjustable centrifugal system which I like best.

Lews Dual brake system will cast deep diving cranks really far. The tournament MB is a great reel. You might also want look at its updated version the MP.

The Patriot is supposed to be completely American made. I've never had a Fuji sic guides fail.

I know I'm gonna get roasted for this but my Johnny Morris Patriot Rods are in my opinion better blanks and have sic guides at 199$.

My point is for 1/2 the price it has Fuji Alconites. At the 200$ price point anything less is unacceptable IMHO. I had a rod with recoil. I really liked it a lot. Never had an issue with them. Some people claim they groove with braid. This did not happen to me..

For what you want to spend the Johnny Morris signature series 7-6 heavy extra fast is the best choice.

Same here.

They are aluminum oxide inserts. I'd expect that on a $100 dollar rod.if you fish braid this may very well be an issue.They are also Kigan guides. I prefer Fuji. Would you buy a $500 rod with the same guides? I just don't think a 200 + dollar rod should come with anything less than Fuji alconites.The Fenwick HMG has Fuji alconite for $99.

The avid x micro guides are not even alconite. They are substandard garbage at this price. I picked a Bps Johnny Morris Patriot with Fuji sic guides over it for this reason.

Falcon and bass pro shops Johnny Morris rods.

Sufix advantage mono.

I hate flouro in ant brand

If you look its looping at the start of the cast. I had the same issue because it's so limp. Went back to Sufix 832.