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Actually I mis remembered one thing. On the Patriarch, I eventually do, but that reel doesn't work great that way. On the Black Max the knob will fall off first.

With my Black Max, the knob will fall off before the spool clicks. Same deal with my Pflueger Patriarch. The Shimano Curado K's aren't too far away.

Nice. I'll get this setup later today or tonight sometime

Try the Deception Worms and the Swammers, whichever size you need. The 4" makes a really nice chatterbait trailer. The Ned Zones, X-Tubes, Center Sticks also look pretty good as do some of the jig trailers.

I added you to the list. Also I want to give people a little bit of time to respond and see this message so they make it.

Can be, but should they be? I would probably not ever set up a Shimano reel that way and cliterally would never use an Abu Garcia reel that way. Either where it just begins to click, or just stops to click. It's a super finite difference either way.

Alright so when can everyone make another call? I want to keep it on a weekday and I can't do Mondays and I can't do this Friday. I could do this Thursday at 8pm or aim for something next week.

Ah yeah I didn't see your message even, but yeah it's really a marketing ploy for people who don't know how to setup Daiwa reels.

I was literally going to comment almost the exact same thing.

I would not be concerned with the longevity of any decently made $100 reel. If there's a doubt, most Daiwa and Shimano reels are good.

I use a 7.whatever:1 ratio Tatula 150 and sometimes a 7.3:1 ratio Tatula CT. I don't think you need anything too specific for frogging, although a faster speed is nice but definitely not required.

The main applicable difference between the two honestly is the newer one is about a full ounce lighter and it's smaller in your hand. It's definitely easier to palm and put your hand on the line. The new one does have the zero adjust knob, but if you were to adjust it like an old SV reel, they adjust exactly the same. Back off on the tension spool and tighten it down to the point where the spool just stops clicking and you don't ever have to touch it from there. It literally takes under a second to set on the older one, so I could care less about that feature.

I found it the opposite.

If you have access to deep water from the bank, a drop shot works great! The thing is, I usually don't

Usually a good spot is a good spot, whether you see fish at the moment or not at least depending on the time of year and more so with smallies as they tend to migrate a lot.

Definitely green pumpkin for me, but I've had luck with various watermelon colors, junebug and motor oil and some others

Berkley Power Worms work very well and should be very similar

BPS had their ups but overall I'd say Cabela's takes the cake.

I think @Big Hands nailed it. When the bass are actively looking to feed, in the feeding spot is when you want to throw it. Dusk and dawn are usually good times.

Some of the Sierras have a little bit more tip, case in point the 704C but the 703C seems to be very similar in action in both lines. The Kaden line is essentially the Sierra line with even more tip. How do they compare? The Sierra line is definitely a bit more sensitive than the same rod in the Fury line, and if I was buying a 703C for the first time, I would definitely say the Sierra is worth the extra cash. Considering you have a Fury 703C already, stepping up one line is going to be a little harder sell although if it's a rod you use a lot or if you could find use for two 703Cs, then I could justify it. Also the Fury is fine for moving baits and topwaters, if you were fishing weightless plastics then it would be more worthwhile to me as well. Just something to think about. The Daiwa Tatula rods are great! I have one Tatula Elite with AGS guides, and that rod is all around pretty great as well. I have no experience fishing the Bass X rods, but I would spend the extra ~$30 for the Mojo Bass. They have a much more sensitive blank.

Yup. The Dobyns 735C is the perfect action for an all purpose heavy rod for sure. I don't own any (and my oldest doesn't have that one yet, that's his line of rods) but I've gotten my hands on them in stores.

I considered looking into Shimanos, their heavy rods are supposed to be very good. I'm not actually sure if I'd want a heavy or extra heavy given their lineup, probably a heavy but people seem to use extra heavies for flipping and frogs too. It's generally his brother's line of rods, but a Shimano Sierra 735C would be pretty ideal.

Well catching a 10 pounder up here is like winning the lottery and we don't have a lot of really thick cover but there are some thick spots with lily pads or milfoil. So I would definitely want something that can throw in then, but given that it's not as thick as Florida, we haven't caught a ten pounder yet etc I figure something that could be all around useful would be nice.

He is 5'7". Most his rods are 7' - 7'2" and he does well, usually he stands on his kayak and fishes, so I figure anything from 6'9- 7'3" would be about ideal, longer for flipping or pitching, shorter for frogs so it's a toss up. He definitely does very well with the 7'1" rods.

It is. He frequently throws a 3/8 or 1/2oz jig on that. He has the plastics rod, spinnerbait and mojo glass 7'2" M/M cranking rod as well plus a ML/XF spinning rod, so he's got his bases covered.