Tennessee Boy

If you’re convinced that both batteries are good then you need to determine what is causing your problems. Replacing a good battery with a new battery doesn’t fix anything. Something is wrong. You could pull a 4 year old battery out of a car and get more than 3 hours of run time on your electronics.

I don’t pretend to know what motivates buyers. I’m just sharing how I think about it. These batteries are actually pretty simple. If I had one that failed I would consider fixing it myself.

Everyone will have to make up their own mind on how much risk they are willing to take. There are certainly some risk given that the batteries are expensive to ship back. Battle Born has 84% five star ratings on Amazon and cost $925. Li Time has 78% five star ratings and cost $199. Will any of these companies be around in 10 years to service a warranty? Will you want to mess with a warranty in ten years if you can buy a better battery for $50.

They definitely have some work to do. If I ask you to estimate the size of a fish I caught I expect you to add a couple of pounds. 😆

Battleborn is the closest you can get. They are engineered and assembled in the US and use Chinese cells. They have a unique design and clear advantages over the cheap batteries. They also cost $900. I have one but don’t think I will be buying another one unless the price comes way down. I think lithium batteries have become like AAA batteries. You buy them, use them and replace them when they’re dead. It doesn’t matter much what brand they are.

In the study the bass that were trained to identify white were able to do so most of the time. They did struggle and very often confused black with white. Show me a color filter that demonstrates that. These findings are very interesting to me. I try to resist the temptation to simplify them into easy rules that I can go catch more fish with. It’s not that simple. I also try to resist the urge to dismiss the research because it challenges my long held beliefs about bass. The research humbles me and sparks my curiosity and desire to learn more.

According to the description on Amazon the BMS does have temperature protection and all of the basic BMS protections. I would be a little concerned that the product and the company selling it has zero reviews. Maybe they are offering a discount to establish a reputation on Amazon or maybe it’s a scam. If I was in the market I would consider buying it. These no name Chinese made LifePo4 batteries are becoming a commodity and generally get good reviews.

Science also contradicts that blue disappears in deep water. Blue light penetrates the furthest in water. That’s why the ocean and swimming pools look blue.

Brown’s study was done in 1937 and was ignored by anglers because most anglers love their colors. A much better study was done in 2017 using more modern techniques. The eyes were dissected and the cones were tested to determine their wavelength sensitivity. They used this data to build a model of a bass’ color vision. Because what the eye sees is interpreted by the brain they tested the model by training bass to identify certain colors the way Brown did in 1937. The findings were essentially the same as Brown’s. Here is a link to the newer study. It has been discussed at length on this forum and like the Brown study it hasn’t changed many angler’s minds. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6347066/

Because it is. The more people throw it the more fish will be caught on it. Yes.

When I have a problem like this I look at the evidence and make my best guess at what the problem might be. Then I try to prove or disprove that guess. If I’m right I proceed in fixing the problem. If I’m wrong I look for what else could cause the problem. My best guess is you have a bad battery. That contradicts what Interstate found when they tested your batteries. Either they screwed up/lied or I’m wrong. If I was you I would determine for myself if it’s a bad battery/batteries. There are many way you can test this. You could buy a $20 battery load tester at Harbor Freight and test each battery separately with them disconnected from each other. You could take them to another place to be tested. You could connect everything up to just one battery and see how long the battery last then do the same for the other. Other folks here might have additional suggestions. It shouldn’t take long to determine with certainty if it’s a battery problem.

If all of the fish finders are shutting off after 3 hours and the problem started when you got new batteries, that strongly suggest the batteries are the problem not the wiring. It seems very odd to me. Are you running deep cycle batteries? Even if you're using cranking batteries I would not expect 3 fish finders to drain them in 3 hours. Without looking up the specs on your fish finders I would guess you have about 10 amps total of power draw. That would mean your two batteries combined have about 30 amp hours of capacity or 15 amp hours each. When I first got my boat I was running two Solex 10s, 360, and all the accessories on my group 27 cranking battery. I could go 12 hours with no problems but I spend a lot of time graphing which charges the battery. Now I run three Solex, 360, MEGA Live on a 75ah Lithium and have never run out of juice. Some thoughts If it's a battery issue I would think only one of the batteries is bad. Seems very unlikely that you got two bad batteries. My best guess is you have one bad battery which is draining the other battery. If you leave the batteries on the charger until you leave to go fishing this would make it more likely that it's a bad battery. Disconnecting the charger after the batteries are charged and then checking the voltage after a day or so might tell you something. You could charge both of them separately and then run your electronics (off the water) for a few hours off of each one separately to see if there is a difference in run time between the two batteries. There are other things you could check if you have the right tools like a multimeter or a load tester.

So 14# mono is stronger than split rings. Who knew?

When I open up my reels I find something around the house that’s slippery to lubricant them with. Haven’t had any problems so far. 😆

I’m thinking everything is working as designed. The 14 volts is coming from the engine to charge the batteries. I would expect to see a voltage drop when the batteries drop down from a full charge. 12.1 volts is low. I’m assuming you’re getting the reading from your fish finders. Fish finders are not very accurate voltage meters. You will also have some voltage drop in your wiring. The smaller the wires the more voltage drop you will see. If the wiring was installed at the factory it’s probably on the small side. If your electronics are working okay and your motor always starts then I wouldn’t worry about it. If you have one wire running from the battery to bow that is powering both fish finders then turning off one fish finder should reduce the voltage drop in the wiring and you should see a voltage increase on the other fish finder. If this change is significant then you might consider rewiring with bigger wires.

So after 3 hours they are still able to crank the motor but not run the electronics? How long did your previous batteries last?

How old are the batteries?

I’ve done a few stretch test on different lines out of curiosity and found that they stretch about 6% under a load that is 25% of the line test. That’s usually where I set my drag so any stretch beyond that doesn’t matter to me. I found no measurable difference between mono and fluoro within the margin of error in my test. There are a lot of variables. What one company calls 10# test can be very different from another companies 10#. 6% stretch is nothing to worry about. At some point in the recent history of fishing the notion that line stretch is bad became a thing. I think it’s more of a positive than a negative but 6% doesn’t make much difference either way. If you’re noticing a lot of stretch in your line you are probably pushing the limits of the line which is a bigger concern in my very humble opinion. 🙂

Who owns the lake? If it has been surveyed and has posted limits then it is being managed. The sign suggests that they do not think it’s over populated. There are lots of explanations for the lack of big fish. Maybe it was just stocked. Maybe it needs more prey. You can only hope that whoever is managing it knows what they are doing. My guess is they are not looking for advice from the general public.

I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the Italian monopoly EssilorLuxottica. They own most of the brands in the eyeglass industry and most of the brands mentioned in this thread. If you don’t buy from them you will save hundreds of dollars. Good frames cost less than $10 to make and lenses are even less. If you pay $100 for glasses you are getting ripped off. If you pay $500….. This 60 Minutes report was made before Luxottica and Essilor merged.

Touching photo but it looks to me like it was generated with AI.

I don’t really care about fishing records. I wish the state agencies would track record fish. Let’s celebrate that a 12 pound smallmouth was swimming in our local waters. I don’t care if it was caught by an angler, in a commercial fishing net, or by a wildlife officer electro fishing.

10 year old thread. The OP has either won the Classic or given up on professional fishing by now. My money is on the latter. 😆

I lost all respect for the IFGA when they introduced length records and said you have to use their measuring board to get a length record. Great way to sell measuring boards. Also a great way to loose all credibility. What’s next? Start selling line and say you must use our line for a line class record?