Deephaven

Sorry. I complete misread the thread. Thought it was about Tungsten weights. Jig/Spinnerbait I am interested in way more than density. Guess when you come into a thread hoping to find cheap tungsten weights you misread the hell out of it.

I have about 15 rods that have an extension. Basically a thicker rod is cutoff and glued into the bottom of the rod and then cork is put over it and sanded down. Not so easy to sand down cork once a rod is assembled. Sliding on the bottom part of a Winn grip could work though.

Consider your hand at the fulcrum location the part of the rod after your hand isn't relevant as there is no load acting on it. Doesn't change the force being applied. Rod will obviously bend though. At what speed? F=ma. If there is displacement there is acceleration so there is a force. Without force there is no motion and therefore no displacement. If sensitivity is your ability to feel a motion on the other end the longer the rod the more it is magnified. Of course this is assuming exact materials on the blanks. If you can keep that assumption then no, too long is not a thing. Since you can't you have to pull in the other factors of weight, stiffness and such to determine this. Great questions btw! Does any of this mean that a 6'6" SC Avid MF is less or more sensitive than a 7'0 SC Avid MF? Nope, it doesn't as the blank is completely different.

Why? Some food for thought: First the subjective response. Notice how using a 10' panfish rod is more fun than a 5' one when catching 1/3lb panfish? Fish is able to put more juice on you. Regardless of whether this is .000001lb of force or .3lbs you feel more. As for an objective, read anywhere on lever/fulcrum math. When you have questions ask. https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/levers-d_1304.html As for the transmission of vibration, it can...but the line will of course dampen out different frequencies based on the damping and modal parameters of the line in water. Regardless however force transmittal on a tight line to a rod is easily modeled with fulcrum math.

Why do you care? If it's density is equivalent I will always shop on price. Don't really care the makeup, just that it is heavy and small. A 5% reduction in density for a 50% reduction in price sounds great to me.

Regarding the feel, the resonant frequency of the larger line is different. More mass keeping all other things the same lower this frequency. If the bait excites the resonance and isn't purely mechanical it could actually amplify it. The other difference can also be the stiffness. A stiffer line made out of the same material would have the capability of transmitting the energy better. As for if it changes the actual vibration of the jig itself? That is dependent on how much of the jigs action is related to it moving the line. If this is necessary for the vibration then a stiffer line would reduce it. Needing to move more mass would reduce it. Either way, my guess is that it isn't so relevant. The forcing function of the water over the blades is so strong at driving that the resonance and stiffness of the line is probably not so relevant.

Exactly why I use clips. So much easier and faster to retie to a clip than a bait. Stops me from forcing the wrong depth, color or action too long as well. I guess the bait monkey could say I have a rod shortage. If there were 5 jerkbait rods & 8 crankbait rods on my boat I might not have to change the bait as often.

By default the fish has more leverage on you with the longer rod. For each unit of force it puts on you will receive more. Simple Physics. The part that is unanswerable is the differences between rods. How much they dampen vibrations, their weight, stiffness, etc. Of course the simplest way of proving this is to use the same blank but fixture it in a way that changes the length. They aren't mods. St Croix sells their blanks. These are both SC5 MH 7' blanks from SC. The length difference comes in the build. The butt end of the rod is extended before the cork or guides go on. Super common practice. While ideal to get a blank made exactly how you want, that isn't always the case. By changing the length you can change the action and build something that works exactly how you want it.

I summerized the snowmobiles and put the wheeler plow away on the trailer. Going to watch this melt and not deal with it.

All I know is however far I can cast I always need another 5'

Exactly why I posted my experience. Yours are completely different blanks. Mine the exact same blank. The extension is a piece of another scrap rod glued into the end of it and wrapped in cork. Not surprised that manufacturers make a shorter rod lighter. To keep the same action by default they have to. For instance extending my fast from 7' to nearly 8' made it closer to an extra fast as I extended the part of the blank that doesn't bend. Means that manufacturers have to have a different blank. A shorter blank of the same material with the same power and action ratings will be lighter. When all things are equal the longer rod is more sensitive....but it is fundamentally impossible to keep all things equal. So yeah, to be fair mine are now different blanks as well...but the portion that provides feedback is identical outside of reel seat and guide placement.

I have 2 rods, exact same blank, but one is built to be longer (extended the butt) and the longer one is more sensitive.

I never change hands with the rod. Makes zero sense to me. Regardless of whether you are right or left handed you should learn to cast with the hand that isn't reeling. While in the past you could argue that your dominant hand should reel in certain applications where speed is necessary, ultra high speed reels resolve that. My dominant hand is way more capable at articulating the rod and has more sensitivity than my other. Can't see how having it in the other could be considered a good idea.

If EVERYTHING else is equal the longer rod is more sensitive. Simple fulcrum Physics will show that if you have something out a long ways the force is higher. Of course, that makes the assumption that all else is equal which is impossible. Rod material, stiffness, weight all will have an effect. The question that can be answered is will it make a difference for you. This is harder to answer, but in general as long as the combo stays light and is well balanced I would take a longer stick for applications where sensitivity is desired. At some point the extra length will make things out of balance and heavy and that should be avoided.

The dip that gets requested the most when I bake pretzels is beer cheese. Basically beer cheese soup but with less broth than normal and chunks of fermented jalapeno.

7'6" or 7'10" for T-rigs 7'2" or 7'10" for Jigs Depends on the conditions of course. The 7'2" shorty is for skipping.

MXF here as well. XF is great for action and the M soft enough to stay hooked up with trebles.

That is what Muskie lures are for. Toss a 3 treble 6oz bait at the tip of their boat and retrieve it rapidly, then drop it inches from their motor and retrieve rapidly. Repeat with fervor until they leave. It is never long.

I am tall, but my arm isn't long enough for a selfie. Interested to see my bad habits for sure though...not so much that I want to spend $500 on a camera setup.

I do the same, my statement above I should have clarified. Nothing ever goes back in its original place or package until completely dry in the case of hardbaits or never in the case of plastics, but I do keep them if they still work.

This would be the only reason I would do it. Outside of a few forums I am completely opposed to social media and don't share pictures of me or my family anywhere...but I am sure I am loaded with habits that should change. Interested in the thread for that reason.

The one thing I will never do is put anything back in a bag or even plano box for that matter on the day I use them.

For the life of me I can't find a dark theme or such for the forum. Can someone share where the magic make it easy on my eyes button is?

Commercial meat is regularly frozen and defrosted more than once...so you don't "have to". That being said, I would make some sausage and smoke it if you want to process a bunch.

I throw a lot of 1/4oz jerkbaits and only use BC. I hate using a spinning rod for jerkbaits. The reel/rod motion is super ackward in comparison. Of course, it means I can't throw in wind very well.