Everything posted by Clinton john
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Non of them. Every square inch of water within a 500 mile circle of toledo bend gets beat on every year for bass. There's no secret spots leavt in the bass fish game.
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Not sure.
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Wish them all the best.
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The lower Sabine aka south of the dam is good bass fishing, the upper Sabine from circle drive to Logansport not so much good bass fishing. I feel the lake aka toledo is so good because of the huge amount of wood cover in all water depths as well as the amount of bait fish aka shad and bream. To have a healthy and large population of predator fish, you have to have a even larger and healthier population of prey fish and this lake has more prey fish then we can even calculate a number too. I have caught bass so stuffed with shad, that they looked like they had swallowed a foot ball and had tail fins sticking out their throat hole while I was unhooking them. The lake also has a bottom that is conducive to bass being able too live a good life year round, as they can go deep to survive the temp drops of coldfronts while still being able too feed well from shad die offs during those coldfronts. That and the lake is so huge, that there is no amount of fishing pressure that can drive the productivity of bass breeding down and lower the over all bass numbers. I seen it said one "for every bass spawing on the bank, turn around and their is 20 spawning out deep". There have been pictures taken of bass spawning ontop of stumps out in deep water. I read it posted by sra la/tx biologists that the lake can produce hundreds of tons of bass in pounds per year, like in the 100 million pound range per year. Same as killing big racked bucks. If they can avoid danger they can live long enough to get big and this lake has all the necessary things for a bass to live a long time and stack on the weight. Give you an example. My house we clean and eat around 150 to 175 bass per year. 99% of those bass are caught within a 2 mile stretch of my house on San Miguel. The lake fish's as good or better for me every year. Yep. Only time I have seen it become "clear" aka "clean" is during the hot part of summer. And that takes several weeks of no rain and all day every day calm winds. I'm saying clean meaning instead of 3 to 5 inches of visibility it goes to 7 to 9 inches of visibility. I don't like it that "clean". They can see me to easily and I be kind of ugly 🤧 😤 🤪
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Dirty like always.
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I promise you there is a new wolrd record swimming around in this lake.
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Forgot to add, they seem to be favoring the gold Colorado blade version right now. I got out for a few hours after lunch today, really only fished for 2 hours but I managed 7 bites. First five bites were solid 15 to 16.5 inch fish, next tow bites were short fish. Found one stretch of bank that was sheltered from the wind and had sun on it nearly all day. Water temp on that back was 60 to 61 degrees. They were holding tight under cypress trees. Babybass colored swimbait on the above mentioned hook.
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3/0 -3/16once
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Oddly enough they weren't on the trees for us today, just on laydowns, branch piles and brush tops that were barely sticking out the waters surface. Neighbor asked. Why you waited so long to go fish today? Me- waited on the water to warm up and the south winds to blow shad up into the backs of the coves. Timed it perfectly, each back that was wind swept and had a water temp on my graph of 60 degrees are more,that's where they were at. Ribbet frog 🐸 is coming back into the line up tomorrow. I'm thinking tomorrow and Friday is going to be perrty awesome.
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Lol. Should have called me lol I got a big box full of them spinnerbugs I don't ever use lol. They were up tight to wood today, we had to basicly beat the brush/wood with the swimbait to get them to strike, but boy would they bite when we found one.
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You right about that. They ain't straight and the markers are missing in some spots.
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Not bad. I didn't leave the house till around noon. But me and my neighbor boated 12 keepers from noon to about 3:30. Not many small fish today all good fish. Baby bass colored swimbait on a owner flashy simmer hook, gold Colorado blade.
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I just dropped the boat back in off of 191 at the closed down gas station ramp. Water temps in 3 to 7 foot areas are 60 to 62.4 degrees. Back end of San Miguel.
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Not sure if the amount of rain fall we got but the lake came up 6+ inches since yesterday afternoon on San Miguel and its still coming up. I would say we will stabilize tomorrow evening around 171.25 to 171.50 feet. If the weather forecast I looked at around 7pm is correct, come Tuesday or wensday mid day the big pond will be on fire.
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I have a lil bit but they aren't really ready for it yet.
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So lil up date. Dropped the boat back in yesterday around 10am, lines in around 11am, 8 keeper bass between 14.5 to 16 inches in the box by 11:30am. Ghost shad colored swimbait on a owner flasher swimmer hook. Anywhere from 6 inches of water to 2 foot, tucked in tight to any wood. Had my keepers quick, so spent the rest of the day giving them sore lips. Found some on a shallow hump with a pearl and black back crank and a junebug red brush hog trigged. Hit two other coves and the swimbait pattern held, all in total I hooked and landed 44 bass yesterday, had around 15 jump off the hook. Sadest part of the day was I hooked up with a bass well over 6lbs but it was so far back in the brush I was instantly hung up and couldn't get to the fish in any way possible. So had no choice but to break it off so it wouldn't die. Thankful a few seconds after I broke it, I seen the fish break free from the hook as well. She will be sore mouth for a bit but atleast she will live. Boats on the trailer and I'm in the house, rain is coming down, wish I was fishing lol.
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No rain yet today. Bite turned off today. Did manage to find some on a hump in bout 3 foot of water on a square bill pearl and black back crank. Only one of them was a legal keeper. Yesterday after I meet up with ronny from this thread in a cove behind my house, I was able to out together a good lil pattern but everything was short. They wanted a baby bass colored 4 inch kvd swimming shad on a owner flasher spinner hook. Pulled the boat for now, may drop it back in tomorrow. Fighting a inboard battery charger that's not charging. Edit to add. With the strong southern winds, lots of shad have been pushed up shallow, if the water temp wasn't going to drop with this rain, the next few days would be on fire.
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It's February so it's somewhere between dirty and mud. Good rule of thumb for toledo. From late January to late April if it rains the water will be dirty, we really don't have stained water on the north end of the lake. It's either slightly clear or chocolate milk. If we get a rain hard enough or long enough to bring the water level up. The water will be chocolate milk for a week min.
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So I put the boat in around 10 this morning. Fished till 1pm, stopped and ate some late dinner and had lines back in around 1:30 this afternoon. Just got settled in for supper. Had a grand total of 21 bites all day, 5 bites the fish missed the bait. The rest were hooked up and landed. Of those 6 were legal keepers and the rest were short and put back in. 1 to 4 foot of water, wind blown banks with wood (brush,tress and laydowns). Watermelon red baby brush hog and 4 inch swimbait was the most productive. Found a few in the 3.5 to 4 foot range on a hump that wanted to eat a pearl and black back square bill crank.
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Like Catt just said. Weather on the Big Pond can be a issue, just incase, be prepared for anything and don't take chances on this lake. She can be very temperamental and gets really dangerous ruff real quick. Best to try and put in as close as possible to the areas you want to fish, keep the trolling motor battery charged each night, just incase you have a motor issue and need to use it to get back to the truck. As I said earlier plan for cold temps and rain. As for as fishing, the north end is getting into pre-spawn and you can perrty much catch fish in any water depth. I'm a shallow water guy,so buck brush, grass and lay downs in 1 to 5 foot of water with trigs, jigs, small swimbaits, chatterbaits/spinnerbaits, sqaurebill cranks and traps. If going shallow, kind a mind open to wind blown banks in the back of coves with good cover, possibilities of active fish eating on shad blown in. Water is muddy right now and will be even worse if we get the rain that's forecasted. Lure color will need to be adjusted.
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Bring rain gear and warm clothes. Thunderstorms forecasted to start Friday and a drop in daytime/nighttime air temps as well.
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Yea started around 2am, was kind of hard a few times during the night, now it's a steady soft rain for the last 2.5 hours.
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Nope swimbait.
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I seen that late this evening on a video. Not sure where he was when he caught it, but I didn't recognize it as any part of the back end of San Miguel. Dang it had the fat finger dease lol. Rest of the report from today. I went back out after I posted today. Water Temps in the backs of coves were in the 60 to 62 degree range, but that's after the sun got it warmed up, this morning those coves were in the 57 to 59 range. Fish turned on a bit today and the watermelon red kvd shad with a owner flashy hook got a good work out. I ended my day with 7 of my 8 legal keepers, had several dinks to put back today. All keepers were in the 14 3/4 to 16 inch length range, so 2 to 3.5 lb fish. I did find one really fat female late today she came in at 6 lbs 4 once, she got put back. Rain predicted to start tomorrow night, so got one more chance at them tomorrow then I'm done till the rain is over.
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Man that stinks. On a side note, I'm on them green fish today, finding them in 2 to 4 foot of water. Watermelon red brush hog worked really slow.