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Can anyone give us some clue on what we might be missing out on? I fish from a 10' Jon boat and don't have flipping/pitching capabilities as I must sit down to fish from this rig.Are jigs as good when casting as they are when pitching/flipping? Bottom line why should a non jig fisherman start throwing jigs other than to be a well rounded fisherman.Are they really that good at enticing fish to strike? What makes a jig so appetizing to a bass? Is it the subtle movement of the strands of the jig skirts action?

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Jigs are extremely versatile. You can do anything with them. You can swim them along the surface like a wake bait, drag them along the bottom, hop them, whatever you like.

Why can't you stand up in your boat? You're really missing out on some nice fish if you can't flip and pitch.

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In one word, "yes" they should give them a try.

They can be fished from a small boat, from shore and are in no-way limited to just flippin' and pitchin'.

As for the appeal, I like to think of it as the motionless motion. Even when you aren't moving the jig, it's moving. Good luck.

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Its a 10' jon and feels pretty shaky when I stand up. Ant really relax when I'm standing up in it. I'm always really wobbly

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I understand. Yeah, you should really give them a try. I don't know how it is in arizona, but jigs on the bottom are supposed to look like crayfish. But you can swim it and it'll look like a baitfish.

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You absolutely do not have to pitch or flip a jig for it to be effective.  If you fish a texas rig worm or lizard you can fish a jig.  I will throw a jig almost every time I go fishing, and the lake I fish has very little in the way of cover to flip or pitch to other than floating boat docks........which I don't fish very much......Use it as a follow up or clean up bait casting to the same place you where casting whatever other lure you were using.

In my opinion it is the best single bait if you are looking for that big bite. (Maybe the big swim baits are just as good I just have not fished them)

Flipping and Pitching is just a technique used to cover alot of cover very fast and very accurate by putting your bait in the strike zone instead of casting past the zone and working the lure through the zone.  Jigs are also not the only lure that can be pitched or flipped.  You can texas rig any plastic and flip and pitch it.

This time of year is a great time to vertical jig a pig and jig or jig and grub or whatever other plastic you would like to use.

One technique you may want to try is shooting jigs with a spinning rig.  You can do this sitting down (even though it may be easier standing).  Scale your jig down to 1/4oz and shoot them under boat docks.

I'm sure others will have many other ways and reasons to use a jig, but whether standing or sitting the bottom line to use a jig is to get broke off!

Tie one on any size or color as long as it is 3/8oz and black and blue. You'll love it.

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Hmmmm.....I wonder if a swimming jig ever looks like a swimming crayfish, or if a feeding baitfish looks like a jig on the bottm.  Something to ponder before young minds make generalizations about fishing.

Anyway, a pitch or a flip is JUST A TYPE OF CAST!!!!!.  Just cast the jig to your target in what ever way is easiest.  Its what you do the instant the bait hits the water that gets bit.

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IMHO there is not a better or more consistent big fish bait then a jig. They are also the most versatile bait out there, like already said fished near the bottom or swum up near the top, they can pretty much do it all. I don't pitch or flip that often to be honest, most of my "deep" jig fishing is working a deep weedline or combing an underline point or some other type of structure, these usually entail some type of cast whether it be short or medium (I don't like that much line out with a jig because it diminishes feel and hook setting ability imho). As far as equipment goes most of my jig fishing is done with a 7" mh Fast action rod, I own like 3 flipping sticks and always have at least 1 with me but when I am working deep or off shore structure I am almost always using the 7'er I think the majority of your jig fishing you could get by with a 6'6" or 7' mh fast action rod, just remember on the hookset that there is a weedguard and usually a big thick hook that you have to drive home to get that fish to the boat.

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try different presentations, I will often cast it out and crawl it back, jumping and twitchin sometimes, and keep changing up your presentation until you find what they want.

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There are many times when flipping/pitching would not be the preferred technique. Even when working in close a short underhand or side armed cast will often work just fine. I learned to fish a jig from a small boat that did not allow me to stand, and I caught many fish on jigs from it.

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Flipping jigs is one of the many ways there is to fish a jig.

Pitching jigs is one of the many ways there is to fish a jig

Casting jigs and hoping jigs along the bottom is one of the many ways to fish a jig.

Casting and dragging jigs on the bottom is one of the many ways to fish a jig.

Casting and swimming a jig is one of the many ways to fish a jig.

So far that makes five ways to fish a jig, so flipping and pitching are only some of the many ways to fish a jig, where is it written that jigs are only for flipping and pitching ?  :-?

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One suggestion I would make is try a finesse type jig to start out. The first jig fish I ever caught was on a 3/16oz Strike King bitsy bug with half a lizard as a trailer. At the time that's all I had to use. I got on 1 big laydown and caught probably 25-30 small fish off it. I found another laydown on the other end of the lake that was similar and caught another 20 fish off of it!! It was definitely a fun day.

These were all small fish, but they were fish! I was fortunate enough to be fishing a place that had a large population of small fish. I could learn different techniques there because I got bites. It's hard to know if you're doing something right or wrong if you're getting no response.

Once you catch a few fish you'll get a feel for fishing the lure, and then it's much easier to ramp up to the bigger jigs.

I still probably fish a finesse-type jig more than full skirt jigs. This past sunday I fished from 1:00-4:30 and caught 5 fish, broke off on 1, and lost another. 4 of those 7 bites was on a Northstar 3/8oz alien head with a finesse skirt. I use a twin tail grub on all jigs.

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Hmmmm.....I wonder if a swimming jig ever looks like a swimming crayfish, or if a feeding baitfish looks like a jig on the bottm. Something to ponder before young minds make generalizations about fishing.

Anyway, a pitch or a flip is JUST A TYPE OF CAST!!!!!. Just cast the jig to your target in what ever way is easiest. Its what you do the instant the bait hits the water that gets bit.

The only thing i meant by that is that they could be anything. Very versatile lures. I don't know the forage base in arizona, but where i fish a jig on the bottom could look like a crayfish, but it could also look like a baitfish if worked a little faster. Could be anything. ;)

If i had to sit here and explain everything a jig COULD be as to not generalize, i'd be here forever.

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If all you do with a jig is flip or pitch it, you're severely limiting yourself.

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You can catch a ton of fish simply dragging and bouncing a jig. I broke my trolling motor this year, and for a few days all i was doing was drifting over a rockpile and dragging the jig along. Could do the same with a texas rigged plastic...but a jig can catch more fish without being totally wrecked.

I catch noticeably larger fish on a jig than plastics, also.

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I don't know where this notion came from that one must stand to flip & pitch?

My two most productive lures are Texas rigged worms & Jig-n-craws which I've always flip/pitch/punch/cast from a sitting position. In resent years with ruptured discs, nerve damage, & torn ligaments in my lower back I probably stand only 15% of the time.

Now I will disagree with most because it's a proven fact Texas rigged plastics out produce all other lures for size & numbers.

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But does your boat have a deck? Try sitting in a boat with regular bench seats with the side of your boat in the way. If you boat has a deck, it would be like sitting on the deck.

If you somehow do flip and pitch from a boat without a deck, then more power to you. Pitching accurately is hard enough standing up.

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Now I will disagree with most because it's a proven fact Texas rigged plastics out produce all other lures for size & numbers.

My personal best came this year on a t-rigged baby brush hog and I caught a whole lot more fish on plastics than I did a jig.  I probably like fishing a jig more though because you don't have to really mess with it other than the trailer. 8-)

Jig = lazy man's t-rig? ;D

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Now I will disagree with most because it's a proven fact Texas rigged plastics out produce all other lures for size & numbers.

I don't disagree on with that on numbers.... but size? We must be fishing different fish, over the years, the jig has proven to me that it brings the big mommas in!

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I went all out on my first Jig fish and caught a 6.5 in 25ft on top a brushpile. I plan on using it alot more this year...

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i pitch jigs all the time in my kayak. pretty easy with spinning gear.

for starting off i recommend a small jig (1/4oz bitsy bug) with a small 3" craw trailer (baby rage craw, 3" craw papi, 3" paca craw)

until you feel comfortable pitching from a sitting position, do short, low trajectory casts as to not cause too big of a slash and you will catch fish. it doesnt have to enter the water like an olympic dive. a little commotion might actually attract fish. you will soon have a new favorite bait!

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But does your boat have a deck? Try sitting in a boat with regular bench seats with the side of your boat in the way. If you boat has a deck, it would be like sitting on the deck.

If you somehow do flip and pitch from a boat without a deck, then more power to you. Pitching accurately is hard enough standing up.

A 10 foot boat is pretty short but you can do it. Try standing sideways and straddle one of the bench seats. If your gunwales are high you may still have to pitch with a bit of sidearm to keep from hitting the sides. If you have enough width you should be able to stand facing forward or backward as well.  It will be easier if you are standing facing forward or backward because you can perform the pitch with the lure swinging on the outside of the boat.  (Let me know if that doesn't make sense.)  I have a bassboat but I occasionally fish from a small jon boat and I stand the vast majority of the time. It does take a little practice.

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Couldn't you tie some inflated inner tubes to the side of your boat to make it more stable while on the water? All you would need are some inner tubes and a couple of heavy gauge screws with large eyelets that you can screw into something sturdy in your boat. Keep em in your boat when towing and throw em out to the side and tighten the rope to keep em stuck to the side of your boat. When taking them back out just loosen the ropes and you can pull em back in.

I tried to kind of draw what I mean in MS Paint, but I don't know how much more itll help.

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