i think fireline was expanded as a line to include a fluorocarbon?

Nope.

This topic may have started as a fluoro-bashing thread, but it became a clearing house

for the pros and cons of fluorocarbon line. We've all heard the expression: 'Action speaks louder than words',

well Chris Lane provided the action. Two months ago in March, 2014, Chris Lane won the Bassmaster Elite

on the St Johns River in Florida. Chris boated a 37-lb, 9-oz stringer setting the new one-day Elite record

and attributed his win to 65-lb braided line tied 'direct' to a jig. If the all-time Elite record was broken

with 65-lb braid tied direct to the lure, what possible benefit can be derived by switching from 65-lb braid

to 12-lb fluorocarbon (why take a knife to a gun fight?).

 

Roger

The point is understood but I don't think that's totally a fair comparison.

When you're fishing in and around heavy vegetation then I think you'll get a lot of folks to admit that heavy braid is the way to go - I'm guessing that even the pro-FC guys would admit to that. I know I would.

But just because it was the right choice for Lane on St Johns doesn't mean it's the best line choice in EVERY situation

I used P-line fluoro last year and never had any problems with it.  Except for being more stiff, I didn't really notice a difference from using mono.

St. John's river is a exceptional fishery, I fished it

For years and years, not at all surprised by that wieght. Using braid in a high level tournament, not anything special..

My stance is this when they all start direct tying with 65# braid at table rock, then I'll take notice.

Lane was flipping thick lillypads all tournament. Braid isn't as visible in all that cover.

What's wrong with fireline?

 

Berkley recently changed the name of their pro-grade braided line from 'Fireline braid ' to 'Trilene braid'.

That was probably a good marketing move because for years, anglers confused Fireline braided line

with the original Fireline fused line. Berkley's Trilene Braid is an 8-member braid like Sufix 832. 

 

Roger

Berkley recently changed the name of their pro-grade braided line from 'Fireline braid ' to 'Trilene braid'.

That was probably a good marketing move because for years, anglers confused Fireline braided line

with the original Fireline fused line. Berkley's Trilene Braid is an 8-member braid like Sufix 832.

Roger

What does that have to do with fluorocarbon though?

What does that have to do with fluorocarbon though?

 

Your question was: "What's wrong with Fireline?"

Berkley Fireline is fused polyethylene, it is not fluorocarbon

 

Roger

F/C is a tool just like rods, reels, and baits.  It's us, as fishermen, who must find where it's most beneficial.  I use FC for one application only and it's perfect for it.  It's a light bait with a slow action rod, and the line has no chance to break.  And I use FC for this light bait because it casts easily on a longer rod with a full sized reel. 

 

So again, a tool for a certain job, just like braided line.  Everything else works well with XT or XL for me.  And the 3K yd spools last a long time, even with very frequent line changes.

 

FL

Your question was: "What's wrong with Fireline?"

Berkley Fireline is fused polyethylene, it is not fluorocarbon

 

Roger

If you read the post that I quoted when I asked that question, the guy stated "great, i read this the day after I buy some fireline." I asked him what was wrong with it in response to his quote. I am well aware that fireline is not a fluorocarbon.

Call me old fashioned but my reels spooled with Trilene XT in green have always and continue to put fish in the boat for me! I tried the FC but didn't like the way it felt and performed at all. I do use braid on some reels and have no problem with that either. Keep the FC and I'm going to drive on with my XT.

Same for me, except I use XT Clear.