Low_Budget_Hooker Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Off topic replies have been moved to [link=http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1158616241]This Thread[/link] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyron Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 All the rigs : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Roadwarrior- Does your advice change any for time of day or time of year? I decided to learn bass fishing in the middle of summer this year, and so far from what I can tell, that is one of the hardest times of the year to catch fish unless you go pretty late at night/early morning--or at the least I haven't learned much other than patience so far. (Which should have me well prepared to try your advice!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Early spring to late fall. Plastics are extremely versatile. Vyron- You forgot to add the only one I use ??!! :-/ :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyron Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 my mistake sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Sam Posted September 18, 2006 Super User Share Posted September 18, 2006 I thought you were going to suggest using dynamite. Good advice. Patience, patience and patience. Think like a bass. Thanks for Bass Fishing 101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbear Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 ok, I am in. The student/newbie/frustrated fisherman here is going out this weekend and use this strategy. I need to feel that jerk on the OTHER end of the line for a change!!!! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassasin12 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 thats the simplest way to catch a bass without using live bait I can think of. Rw is right it almost is guaranteed fish if there are bass in the palce you are fishing. That is how I started out and I am sure many others have started out like this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 19, 2006 Author Super User Share Posted September 19, 2006 Norm, Summertime is my very best season. That is when I have caught ALL of my 10+. I fish soft plastics year-around, but this is why I posted this thread: This particular approach works ALL OF THE TIME! Maybe you haven't noticed, but several members have caught their PB in the last thirty days. Wassup with dat? Temperatures are trending down, but this EXACT tactic will continue to work, in every part of the country. BTW, All but one of my best bass have been caught on the hottest, bluebird days of the summer around midday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass2187 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 This is pretty much what I have been doing the past few days i have been fishing. Mostly been using the fat ika however, its a fantastic bait. Got my line snapped by something big today, was on for a second and then realised it was hooked and took off before the drag could work. I have however had a couple problems with the ika. That is i am not getting a hook set sometimes. I think it is just the way i am setting it. Probably need to add a little snap to it. I have noticed sometimes when i bring back the lure after i had a fish on and lost it that the lure position hasnt changed. I am pretty sure the fish were just holding it in there mouth and running with it. My other problem with it was that i kept getting hook ups deep in the mouth and in what i would consider the cheek of the fish. Tore some fish mouths up and felt bad. Now i debarbed my hooks and that fixed my problem. Hopefully didnt mess up my hook ups though. All in all its a fantasic bait and i havnt even had it that long. I even had one fish jump out of the water and grab the ika as i was pulling it out! ;D Had my parents by me a few more packs of them for when they come down here to fish and visit with me! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Norm,Summertime is my very best season. That is when I have caught ALL of my 10+. I fish soft plastics year-around, but this is why I posted this thread: This particular approach works ALL OF THE TIME! Maybe you haven't noticed, but several members have caught their PB in the last thirty days. Wassup with dat? Temperatures are trending down, but this EXACT tactic will continue to work, in every part of the country. BTW, All but one of my best bass have been caught on the hottest, bluebird days of the summer around midday. I'm glad to hear that. All these dry runs I've had are disconcerting! I should try to hit the lake this weekend and give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYbass1276 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I would like to see some of your guys results so if you don't mind please post them when you go out next. Senkos deffinatly got me hooked using soft plastic's. The best beginner bait out there. I don't want to go off topic but I wouldn't worry about a splash using these baits. It's been my experiance that when using a senko and it makes a splash upon entry it will spook the bass for a couple seconds but they will turn around to see what spooked them and come back for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbear Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I do have one question for RW or any of you knowledgeable "gentlemen" ;D on this subject. Will any tube the size of the Fat Ika work? I have gone to my local Wally World and looked on Bass Pro's website, and can not find that brand. Maybe someone here in the N. Georgia area can point me in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 19, 2006 Author Super User Share Posted September 19, 2006 A Fat Ika looks like a solid tube, but the action is completely different. I like tubes, too. Tubes are killer, but they are not Fat Ika. The Kinami Palm Tree is the same bait marketed by Gary Yamamoto's son. You can buy the Fat Ika direct: www.baits.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbear Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Thanks, gonna place an order today...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VekolBass Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 This is the technique I learned this summer as a result of a challenge on the Member Challenge contest. My 18 year old son taught me how to do it. I started trying it on a small, clear stream near my house--and was amazed at how the bass reacted to the bait. I found out quickly that, at least under those conditions, they would immediately charge to within inches of the bait. Sometimes they would grab it and take off, sometimes they would inhale it, and move off slowly. The one constant is that if you set the hook and missed, that particular fish would not attempt to eat it again. Completely disinterested. I can attest, you do what RW says and you will catch bass. I have not tried Fat Ika's yet, but I think that's coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishin Phil Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 The thing I love about Senkos is they are relativly cheap so I attack stumps, brush, trees with confidence in my casts. When I fish from shore I walk around with a bag of Senkos (or Ikas) and a few hooks in my license holder. Thats it. Somedays I run out of hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorlin Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Start with the Senko. Cast parallel to the bank, out 10-15 yards. Let the bait sink to the bottom, count to 30 (as in 30 seconds) Good deal... casting parallel to the bank with a cast somewhere in the 30-45 foot range. The only thing you didn't specify was about how far off shore or how deep the water should be but I figure 2-6 feet is simple enough and should produce good results... but I do have one question: ...then move the Senko 6-12" with a slow horizontal sweep, allowing the bait to fall on slack line. Count to 10, then repeat. Continue all the way back, move ten steps forward and repeat. Ok, the bait is on the bottom after 30 seconds and it's been there long enough for a tentative fish to have picked it up after watching the fall, got that part. What I have a hard time imagining is that a slow horizontal sweep of 6-12" isn't going to come close to picking the bait up off the bottom, which is not a problem. What confuses me is how is a bait that hasn't left the bottom going to fall on slack line? Or do you mean give it a little slack after moving 6-12" so that a bass has some slack to pick it up and start to take it off somewhere to eat it? My point being, it sounds as if the bait never leaves the bottom, which is fine. It's just that combining that with the word "fall" caused a facial tick as I tried to imagine it in my mind Great advice though and I notice many of the things that have helped me to catch bass on plastics... but your approach is more fine tuned than mine. I'll be trying it before the weekend is out! Thanks, Vorlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 20, 2006 Author Super User Share Posted September 20, 2006 Your cast should place the bait 10 to 15 yards off the bank. A slow horizontal sweep of 6 to 12 inches will move either lure off the bottom. Play with this in clear, shallow water and you will see exactly what kind of action you have while fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Chris Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 All great advice RW. My "guaranteed" method is the good old fashioned Night Crawler :-) Not to mention that everything else that swims will eat a crawler too. Lots of bonus fish :-) They can even catch big bass...... but I only use crawlers for big bass, in very specific, isolated circumstances..... otherwise "artificial lures" generally make it "easier" to stick the big ones. Peace, Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbear Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I was wondering if we could make this thread a sticky like the one on Carolina rigs, so it does not get lost...... It would make a great reference tool IMHO. I have read and reread this thread about 5 times now, and I can not be the only one, can I???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlinrogue Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Thanks for the info,RW.I'm gonna try this the next time that I go bassin'.I'm using a 4" Senko green pumpkin/watermelon.I'll have to really focus on SLOW.Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 22, 2006 Author Super User Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hey Coach, I'm pretty sure this thread isn't for you, but if you don't usually fish soft plastics, this is the way to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbear Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Roadwarrior, you are DA MAN! I took your advice on Saturday. I went out and fished nothing but Senkos and Fat Ikas. I hooked 10 fish, only landed 4 though. Lost one monster fish. Weather was about 45-50 first thing in the morning, went to 75 by mid day. Water temp was in the low to mid 70s. One question though, I rigged the Fat Ika just like you explained, but every fish I lost was hitting the Ika. All but the big one, spit the hook. I was using an 8 ft. pole, with a limber tip, but good back bone. Now, admittedly, I was not swinging for the fences on the hook set, is that wrong??? Just trying to figure out what I was doing wrong to keep losing fish. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 2, 2006 Author Super User Share Posted October 2, 2006 fishbear, You need a firm tip to fish ALL soft plastics. You don't need a "Bill Dance" hook-set, you need SHARP hooks and a "snap-set". (Without raising the butt of the rod, reel down quickly and dip you rod. When you feel the fish, snap the upper portion of the rod with your wrists and forearms. This will drive a sharp hook into the fish.) Although the Fat Ika has a relatively thick body, it is soft. You should be using 4/0 or 5/0 EWG hooks. Hook-ups should not be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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