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Cranking With Braid Hooks?

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I'm at Walmart buying some 50 lb power pro for cranking are the stock hooks on my strike king 5xds fine? Do I need to buy heavier wire hooks?

  • Super User

So your worried about bending out the treble hooks on  your crankbaits if using 50lb braided line?     I'm thinking this conversation is going to get interesting.

The hooks will be fine on the 5xd. If anything using braid will pull the bait straight out before you get the hooks in. Just my 2cents. 

  • Author

Idk just something I read on * about switching to braid Matt allen said to step up your hooks to 3x or even 4x trebles.

  • Super User

I crank with braid, the 5XD hooks will be fine as long as your using the appropriate rod and your drag is set correctly.

I started to crank with braids too. StOCK hook works well. Just don't sweep set so hard I think you should be fine. Maybe back off the drag a tad bit too. However on tournament days I will change the cranks that I feel will work to gama short shank 2

  • Super User

When your cranking with braid you need to realize its not gonna take as much force to set the hooks, just sweep the rod and reel just like with mono but a little softer....

  • Global Moderator

I wouldn't use the stock hooks on a Strike King crankbait with mono, let alone braid. I've seen those hooks bend out and big fish swim away way too many times. 

  • Super User

I wouldn't use the stock hooks on a Strike King crankbait with mono, let alone braid. I've seen those hooks bend out and big fish swim away way too many times.

Hmm really?? I've always thought SK crankbaits had pretty good stock hook,s, a lot better than some company's like bomber....

  • Global Moderator

Hmm really?? I've always thought SK crankbaits had pretty good stock hook,s, a lot better than some company's like bomber....

I think they've gone to new ones now, but I watched a buddy lose 4 fish over 6 pounds in the same day due to bent hooks on a KVD 1.5 so I wouldn't chance it. I don't fish stock hooks on very many baits anyways though. 

If you can afford them the Decoy Quattro X-S21 Hook are the best treble hook I have every used.

 

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If you can afford them the Decoy Quattro X-S21 Hook are the best treble hook I have every used.

 

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illegal in some states though I believe
  • Super User

Most stock hooks suck but i like the originals on the xd baits.  There no where near owner st-36 or 41's but those are big money.  I have never cranked with that heavy of a braid i use 20 most of the time.  You should get a hit and just crank faster.  I dont even think you will need a hook set in the classic sense.

  • Super User

Why go with 50lb braid when cranking? Especially a 5XD, that will keep you from getting the full depth unless you intend to be grinding it in shallow water. You'll need flipping hooks to replace the trebles because any treble hook that fits that bait, most likely a size #2, is going to bend out with 50lb braid so unless you use a different line you are just wasting money.

  • Author

Why go with 50lb braid when cranking? Especially a 5XD, that will keep you from getting the full depth unless you intend to be grinding it in shallow water.

Ill be shore fishing so depth is not a problem.
  • Author

I was going to get 40 or even 30 lb but Walmart only had 50 and 20. 20 just seemed a little too light for me.

  • Super User

If you are still going to use braid on your baitcaster don't forget to put some mono on the spool first and then add the braid on top.

 

This will stop the braid from slipping when setting your hook.

 

As for 100% braid with crankbaits - I have never heard of any pros using braid on crankbaits.

 

You can do so and see what happens but with treble hook baits you want the fish to suck in the bait and then you just swing the rod to your left or right at belt level to set the hook.  Braid may pull the bait out of the fish's mouth as mentioned by tbone above.

 

So do yourself a favor and view bassresource's YouTube video on crankbait fishing and the videos of Ike and KVD plus your favorite pros and read and listen to what they have to say as to how they fish their crankbaits.

 

Good luck.

I was going to get 40 or even 30 lb but Walmart only had 50 and 20. 20 just seemed a little too light for me.

 

You should go 20lb. That is what I use and I love it. There are a few times where I get line digging but it's not that much of an issue. Also you would get longer distance with smaller lines.

  • Super User

I would go to Mustad KVD 1X Strong 2X short triple grip hooks.  Straightened the stock hooks with 20lb braid.  Better question, why are you fishing 5xd's from shore?  You want a bigger profile, go with the newer larger 8.0 squarebills.

  • Super User

I was so close to ordering a couple 8.0's today but didn't know if my rod would be any good for them... It probably would throw them fine but wouldn't be ideal so I decided to hold off. MH/F 1/4oz - 3/4oz rod

  • Author

I would go to Mustad KVD 1X Strong 2X short triple grip hooks.  Straightened the stock hooks with 20lb braid.  Better question, why are you fishing 5xd's from shore?  You want a bigger profile, go with the newer larger 8.0 squarebills.

I fish my 5xds in the deepest water possible (near dams, docks, boat ramps) and I do fine. Although I lose a couple 5xds every trip (at least they're pretty cheap!) I'm probably going to make a TW order and get some hooks and maybe an 8.0.
  • Author

You should go 20lb. That is what I use and I love it. There are a few times where I get line digging but it's not that much of an issue. Also you would get longer distance with smaller lines.

Besides casting distance and "invisibility", is there any other advantages to 20 lb? I got 50 because the lakes I fish are very dirty right now, so I'm not worried about fish seeing the line. Plus I don't think it's a problem anyways because its a reaction bait. I snag a lot of trees, stumps, brush, and rocks fishing from shore, it'll be nice to have a little extra strength.
  • Super User

Besides casting distance and "invisibility", is there any other advantages to 20 lb? I got 50 because the lakes I fish are very dirty right now, so I'm not worried about fish seeing the line. Plus I don't think it's a problem anyways because its a reaction bait. I snag a lot of trees, stumps, brush, and rocks fishing from shore, it'll be nice to have a little extra strength.

gets your bait deeper, but that won't matter much because you said your bank fishing, what will matter is casting distance and I can cast 20lb farther than 50lb.

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