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What Are Y'all Throwing The New-Ish Kvd 8.0 On?

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I was very close to buying a couple today with the sales on TW but didn't know if my rod could handle them... I was gonna try fishing them on a MH/F with 50lb braid that's rated for 1/4oz - 3/4oz baits. I know the 8.0 is 3/4oz so it'd be at the top weight range for my rod. I think it would be okay for fishing them but wasn't 100% confident... What are y'all throwing it on?

I was very close to buying a couple today with the sales on TW but didn't know if my rod could handle them... I was gonna try fishing them on a MH/F with 50lb braid that's rated for 1/4oz - 3/4oz baits. I know the 8.0 is 3/4oz so it'd be at the top weight range for my rod. I think it would be okay for fishing them but wasn't 100% confident... What are y'all throwing it on?

I'd try a 7'MH/F but with a mono or fluoro instead of braid. You'll already be pulling the bait away faster than with a regular crankbait rod because of the fast action, and I think the braid would just be too much. That's just me though. It's still up to you.
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7' 6" MH/F flipping stick and 20lb Pline. It's a big, big squarebill that I could probably throw on my deep cranking rod but I don't want to fish it on 10lb test and like to fish it around heavier cover like any other squarebill so the big rod should help move fish. 

If I were gonna get them I'd probably use my champ 734 until i got the 706cb. You would need something with a lot of power

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7' 6" MH/F flipping stick and 20lb Pline. It's a big, big squarebill that I could probably throw on my deep cranking rod but I don't want to fish it on 10lb test and like to fish it around heavier cover like any other squarebill so the big rod should help move fish.

What specific rod it it your using, just curious...

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What specific rod it it your using, just curious...

An Academy Ethos rod

  • Super User

When you get into big cranks with big hooks, size 1 or bigger, a cranking rod is no longer needed as the big hooks penetrate and you actually need more backbone to drive the hooks into the fish's mouth. That said, don't be afraid to use a heavy power rod with the magnum square bill.

  • Super User

An Academy Ethos rod

Very under rated rods but very nice rods at a really good price.

  • Super User

I'd probably throw it on a 7'6"MH older BPS Bionic rod or would look into getting one of their graphite series IM6 7'6"H rods.  The IM6 is a bit softer then IM8 but still has the power needed with the larger bait.

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Very under rated rods but very nice rods at a really good price.

Yup, my papa broke his MH/F so I bought him a ethos MH/F and he loves it for swim jigs...

  • Super User

Have one at home.  It doesn't get used as much as it used to though. Still a good rod.

  • Super User

I bought a couple but haven't thrown one yet.  I plan to use my c-rig rod.  7'6" HF but with a soft tip.

7' 6" MH/F flipping stick and 20lb Pline. It's a big, big squarebill that I could probably throw on my deep cranking rod but I don't want to fish it on 10lb test and like to fish it around heavier cover like any other squarebill so the big rod should help move fish. 

 

Will it get down to 5ft on 20# line?

I just listened to a podcast where hackney said it will dive 10ft on 20lb fluoro. That's part of what he won pickwick on. 20lb fluoro on a 300 sized reel and his flippin stick

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I just listened to a podcast where hackney said it will dive 10ft on 20lb fluoro. That's part of what he won pickwick on. 20lb fluoro on a 300 sized reel and his flippin stick

Hmmm, to me that seems a little far fetched... I would hope it would run 5 feet or less on 20lb line.

Same Rod I fish all my other squarebills on, TBC78MHM w/ 15lb Tatsu.

Dobyns Champion 805cb w/16lb sunline sniper.

  • Super User

Hmmm, to me that seems a little far fetched... I would hope it would run 5 feet or less on 20lb line.

10' sounds about right to me.  That's about what the big Lucky Craft version runs.

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Will it get down to 5ft on 20# line?

Easily

 

Hmmm, to me that seems a little far fetched... I would hope it would run 5 feet or less on 20lb line.

They have a pretty big bill on them and will easily get down deeper than 5' on 20lb test. I'm using copolymer, but wouldn't be surprised if they do hit 10' with fluoro. You can kind of get an idea how big the bill is in this side by side picture of an 8.0 and 1.5 size squarebill

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Wonder how hard that 8.0 will pull?

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Easily

 

They have a pretty big bill on them and will easily get down deeper than 5' on 20lb test. I'm using copolymer, but wouldn't be surprised if they do hit 10' with fluoro. You can kind of get an idea how big the bill is in this side by side picture of an 8.0 and 1.5 size squarebill

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Welp, I guess I won't be buying them then... The whole reason I wanted them is because the TW website says it runs 3-7 feet. I would love a squarebill crank I could present in that 2-3 foot range that is giganormous...

  • Super User

I just got a rod in that could handle this bait pretty well: Pinnacle Perfecta DHC5 Micro Casting Rod 7'11" MH Crank.

Welp, I guess I won't be buying them then... The whole reason I wanted them is because the TW website says it runs 3-7 feet. I would love a squarebill crank I could present in that 2-3 foot range that is giganormous...

Look into the black dog G2 shell cracker!

id use a mh swimbait rod or even a heavy!

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Look into the black dog G2 shell cracker!

 

I don't think your going to get more than around 20" out of that bait.  At least I can't, even burning it.

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