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We all have heard or used giant swimbaits in the past, and i'm talking 8-12 inches. But do the same "craved patterns" that work for #Butch Brown and anglers in western lakes, also work for eastern states? The most craved swimbait is probably the Hud-Swimbait, in trout colors.If you need to ask why your way behind the game. 

 

My problem with this is, eastern states don't have trout- but will a bass still find this appetizing? Their is always the option for spending $$$$ for DEPS swimbaits in a variety of common fish patterns found throughout the country. But those baits are out of the option for the common man. 

 

What do you think for color pattern throughout the nation specifically eastern states? Does it matter? And most importantly, do they catch fish? 

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  • SPEEDBEAD.
    SPEEDBEAD.

    This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle....   Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy.

  • BassObsessed
    BassObsessed

    You can definitely catch bass on trout swimbaits no matter if trout are present or not. Being in Florida I would throw all sort of swimbaits big and small. This big girl inhaled a 4'' River2Sea swimba

  • Giant baits indeed. lol.   Expand your horizons.   Don't they use live shiners for bass down in FL?

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  • Super User

Giant baits indeed. lol.

 

Expand your horizons.

 

Don't they use live shiners for bass down in FL?

  • Author

Giant baits indeed. lol.

 

Expand your horizons.

 

Don't they use live shiners for bass down in FL?

LOL- BIG SHINERS- & I mean BIG...

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  • Super User

Huddlestons come in different sizes and colors. You should be able to find something to match your forage. Lots of baits out there that don't imitate trout. Some say that it doesn't matter if you use trout baits in non-trout waters. While I prefer to match the hatch, I have caught bass in shad lakes on trout baits, and bass in trout lakes with no shad on shad baits. 

  • Super User

LOL- BIG SHINERS- & I mean BIG...

 

Maybe you need a #Whinkle shad then since you're looking for the most-craved bait.

 

In all seriousness; learn about giant bass and their forage, and then match the size and color. Real Prey makes a soft shiner bait. Joe is a great guy. Give him a call.

So many good options that are not expensive, the soft baits have the best overall action, the soft magic swimmers are great, Savage soft baits, and I like the Large Yum Money Minnows as well....For hardbaits, Spro BBZ, Egret kick a mullet is perfect imitation of shiners in ponds and works great as a wake bait or glide bait, it doesn't move all that far when you pull it, but it just catches fish better than most, plus it looks awesome in the water with color. Great hooks, can throw on Braid and not worry about bending anything even if an alligator grabs it.

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I'd certainly consider myself a "common man", and I own several Deps swimbaits, along with Hudds. 

 

Do a search on Southern Trout Eaters. Bass don't read books. They don't know what they're supposed to eat, or what fish live in the lake they live in. All they know is "Hey, I could eat that fish over there". How many bright chartreuse baitfish are out there? None in the lakes I fish but going out without a chartreuse spinnerbait (also a very realistic fish imitator), wouldn't be very smart. 

 

OP, you're in an area with potential to produce huge fish. I would 100% be fishing them down there. I know this to be a fact as I'm currently fishing them in Kansas, which everyone knows is a big bass factory  :laugh5:   If you're not sure about going straight to the monster baits, get a 68 Hudd, 175 Slide Swimmer, 168 S Waver, or the Real Prey 7" Shiner. You'll catch quantity as well as quality.

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  • Super User

Swimbaits will catch them anywhere. I've seen two pounders engulf 8" swimbaits.

  • Super User

I'd kinda be interested to see what giant swimbaits would do on Rodman. Mainly guys use big ol' shad for fishing for monsters down their

  • Super User

Where can I see these "swimbaits" you speak of?  :grin:

 

 

Man, don't buy into the "only Cali bass eat big baits."  If you snoop around enough and pay attention, you'll see guys that have adopted the big bait mantra and have been at least partly successful with it.

  • Super User

Where can I see these "swimbaits" you speak of? :grin:

Man, don't buy into the "only Cali bass eat big baits." If you snoop around enough and pay attention, you'll see guys that have adopted the big bait mantra and have been at least partly successful with it.

Bass are opportunistic feeders, unlike a shark so to speak. A bass eats whenever it has the opportunity, meaning anything that comes by a bass and is easily catchable, and can be partially fit into its mouth it will try and eat it.
  • Super User

Bass are opportunistic feeders, unlike a shark so to speak. A bass eats whenever it has the opportunity, meaning anything that comes by a bass and is easily catchable, and can be partially fit into its mouth it will try and eat it.

 

I don't know **** about sharks, but what (first-hand, hopefully) experiences makes you think you can put anything in front of a bass, and it'll eat it?

  • Super User

This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle....

 

Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy.

  • Super User

This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle....

 

Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy.

 

We all know you hate swimbaits speed...  :laugh5:

  • Super User

Florida strain LMB are wired to eat big prey fish like golden shiners. Northern strain LMB prefer smaller bait fish but will sometimes eat large baitfish. Bass are like other animals that can't determine their size compared to the size of what they may consider prey, they make mistakes some of the time. It's like a small dog attacking a big dog, the small dog doesn't know it's own size.

In Calfornia planted rainbow filled a niche for FLMB, long thin shape and high protein prey. It's not that a big NLMB wouldn't eat a planted trout, they aren't wired genetically to hunt trout like a FLMB does.

Having lived in SoCal all my life where' trout plants are common long before FLMB were introduced here, the NLMB didn't target the trout like FLMB do.

Back to the question about big swimbaits; 11" to 16" swimbaits weighing in excess of 5 oz. I believe your odds are reduced using swimbaits that size where NLMB are the bass.Swimbaits in the 6" to 10" sizes weighing up to 4 oz should be a better choice for NLMB.

The most universal color for swimbaits isn't rainbow trout! Rainbow is a very common color, baby bass would be a better choice where rainbow don't exist.

My advice is to buy good quality swimbaits with a good tract record of catching big bass. If you plan to get into swimbaits invest in a swimbait rod and reel.

Tom

Good info ^^^ .  But be prepared to get skunked many days!  This factor is what keeps me out of this game.  Hard to know what you are doing, right or wrong, if nothing bites.

  • Super User

We all have heard or used giant swimbaits in the past, and i'm talking 8-12 inches. But do the same "craved patterns" that work for #Butch Brown and anglers in western lakes, also work for eastern states? The most craved swimbait is probably the Hud-Swimbait, in trout colors.If you need to ask why your way behind the game. 

 

My problem with this is, eastern states don't have trout- but will a bass still find this appetizing? Their is always the option for spending $$$$ for DEPS swimbaits in a variety of common fish patterns found throughout the country. But those baits are out of the option for the common man. 

 

What do you think for color pattern throughout the nation specifically eastern states? Does it matter? And most importantly, do they catch fish? 

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99% of Mexico doesn´t have trout and guess what ? oh yes, "trout" swim baits do work down here.

eastern states don't have trout

Eastern states have plenty of trout. Not all lakes have them, but most do.

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I'd certainly consider myself a "common man", and I own several Deps swimbaits, along with Hudds. 

 

Do a search on Southern Trout Eaters. Bass don't read books. They don't know what they're supposed to eat, or what fish live in the lake they live in. All they know is "Hey, I could eat that fish over there". How many bright chartreuse baitfish are out there? None in the lakes I fish but going out without a chartreuse spinnerbait (also a very realistic fish imitator), wouldn't be very smart. 

 

OP, you're in an area with potential to produce huge fish. I would 100% be fishing them down there. I know this to be a fact as I'm currently fishing them in Kansas, which everyone knows is a big bass factory  :laugh5:   If you're not sure about going straight to the monster baits, get a 68 Hudd, 175 Slide Swimmer, 168 S Waver, or the Real Prey 7" Shiner. You'll catch quantity as well as quality.

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Thanks for the info, i really like the Real Prey Shiner and the Hud 68+ the grass minnow i think its called look appealing from my perspective and have been known to catch big bass. But now is the time to throw the #swimmers since the bass are guarding their Fry/ hatchlings and are are super aggressive towards Bream/Shiners/big Shad.

Being in florida what lakes are you preferring large swimbaits to use on. Ill tell you if its okeechobee there not gonna work as well as youd like to think for big ones.

  • Super User

LOL- BIG SHINERS- & I mean BIG...

 

DUDE. That looks so much like one of Speed's swimbaits that he posted a pic of in the Tackle Purchase Thread:

 

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  • Super User

DUDE. That looks so much like one of Speed's swimbaits that he posted a pic of in the Tackle Purchase Thread:

 

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Doh!!! No you ruined that secret that speed hates swimbaits!!!!  :laugh5:

 

Speed... your secret is out buddy lol. Might as well keep posting pictures of them fat girls! :respect-059:

  • Super User

This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle....

Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy.

Wayne, your posts always provide me with a good chuckle. You gotta try the Zman TRD on those mushroom thingerz though. It's money!

I kind of just like to collect swimbaits, I don't have the patience to throw them all day long, but I do throw them when I know big fish are in the area and I just wish I had the confidence to throw a huge bait all day long but I don't...I feel a 7" Jointed Red Fin or F-18 Rapala Minnow will get me more fish since they are thinner and lures I understand, but most people look at me like I am nuts when I pull up to a small public park with a Jointed Red Fin or Super Spook, but a big bass is not wasting energy on a small bait most of the time and I would agree that a bass colored swimbait makes the most sense or a smokey Joe color if you have gizzard shad or threadfin.

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For the money, you can't beat the #Storm Live Kickin Shad - 

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