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I'm going to give Power Pro a try.

Should I buy the Spectra or the super Slick?

I've used 832 and Kast King so far. The 832 on my flipping rod.

The 50# should be a good all around diameter for casting so that's what I'm thinking I'll buy.

Let me know your thoughts.

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I hated SS8. Braid is known for not being abrasion resistant but SS8 was something else. I've never seen a braid get frayed so easily in my life. And I wasn't fishing in rock.

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I prefer the super slick and didn't notice any difference in abrasion resistance from the standard braid.  It is quieter though.  the one disadvantage to braid is that it is not the most abrasion resistant line choice and most combat that with the use of a leader.  

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For all around casting I like 30# Original Power Pro.

All the different types of braid, from all the different manufacturers made me crazy trying to figure out which is best, just like any other line we use.

I tried it, liked it and staying with it.

Mike

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You can't go wrong with either Power Pro.

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I suppose I could use the SS8 in open water and the original with a leader in cover or structure. I would think the casting distance of the SS8 would be a bit further.

 

I also bought a couple spools of Gliss I haven't tried yet. That will be very interesting. It doesn't look very tough on the surface.

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I have only fished the original, it's really good stuff.  The only time I use (really need) a leader when fishing braid, is when the fish can get an eye full of the line (dragging jigs, shakey heads, ect.) in clear water.  Other than that I just use straight braid.

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If I were using PP, I'd stick with the original. The super slick casts well, but it's the only braid I've ever used that would fray on the open beach just from the sand..... I tried it twice (2 different batches) and never went back. 

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If I were using PP, I'd stick with the original. The super slick casts well, but it's the only braid I've ever used that would fray on the open beach just from the sand..... I tried it twice (2 different batches) and never went back. 

 

I get the feeling the Gliis line will be in the same bunk house. I'll stick with just the Original for now.

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I get the feeling the Gliis line will be in the same bunk house. I'll stick with just the Original for now.

 

we shall see. put 40lb gliss on a set up last night. diameter wise, next to 15lb power pro it looks about identical. Will see how it holds up

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Do yourself a favor.....don't consider either and use the Power Pro Maxcuatro. Thinner, but the same strength. I've been using 50lb all year and I'm very impressed.

 

It's on TW, eBay, and many others.

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Do yourself a favor.....don't consider either and use the Power Pro Maxcuatro. Thinner, but the same strength. I've been using 50lb all year and I'm very impressed.

It's on TW, eBay, and many others.

You're using it with bait casters right?

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You're using it with bait casters right?

 

Yep, a Curado I on a Zodias rod

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I prefer the original PP to the SS8...the SS8 is like silk and can get horrible wind knots that tighten down easily.  I've had to chop up/splice SS8 more than any other line.

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I prefer the original PP to the SS8...the SS8 is like silk and can get horrible wind knots that tighten down easily.  I've had to chop up/splice SS8 more than any other line.

 

That's bad news, Glad I didn't buy any!

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Verifying the 'breaking strength' of a line is pretty difficult, but all you need is a micrometer

to confirm the line diameter. The thinner the line diameter, the lower the water-resistance,

the more natural the delivery, and the less weight is needed to work at a given depth.

On a low note, the thinner diameter line provides lower abrasion-resistance.

 

Manageable and durable braid:                 Berkley Trilene Braid    "Tracer" braid for line-watching

Thin-diameter braid:                                   Seaguar Smackdown   30-lb Smackdown is the same diameter as 20-lb PP & 832
Abrasion-resistance (Frogging/Punching)  Sunline FX2                   60-lb = 0.014"   i.e ROPE :threaten:      

 

Roger

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I ended up buying 65#. I like the diameter.

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I use both and I love them.

braid pp all the way

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never had knots before, good and bad weather

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That's bad news, Glad I didn't buy any!

Gliss does the same thing with a bast caster. I have no idea what it will do on a spinning reel. It also kinks a lot.

I removed the Gliss. It's not for me.

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After two afternoons of fishing With Power Pro I can honestly say I'm completely satisfied. The line is smooth, ties well, spools well and cast great. Could not find anything negative at all.

Excellent Braid.

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I hated SS8. Braid is known for not being abrasion. resistant but SS8 was something else. I've never seen a braid get frayed so easily in my life. And I wasn't fishing in rock.

Same here. I tried the super slick for about 5 casts and that was the end of that. I've never seen any line fray so easily. I'm a big fan of regular power pro though.

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I stopped using power pro because of the teflon lubricant they used on the line. Teflon is a poison. It does not break down over time. So the more power pro we use as fishermen the more teflon we are poisoning the environment with. And since it does not break down, it will still be there for our children and grandchildren, and great grandchildren and beyond.

 

I don't want to contribute to the continued poisoning of the water or environment so I avoid using any teflon coated line. It wears off the line with every cast. Drag it through your fingers and you can see it rub off on your fingers.

 

You can read on Cabela's website where they actually state they use teflon on the line to repel water from the line: "Line is coated with Teflon for higher water repellency." And it is not just ice that is coated with teflon, original power pro is as well.

 

http://www.cabelas.com/product/POWER-PRO-ICE-TECH/1641459.uts

 

So I have to ask myself what sort of fisherman am I really? Am I someone who cares about the environment and future generations enjoyment of it? Or am I a thoughtless polluter? I am not a tree hugger type, but I have moved away from teflon on braid line permanently and teflon coated cooking ware

 

I wish teflon would be banned in all 50 states, around the world and in the oceans too. It just is not necessary and just drives the price up.

 

So today I only buy dry braid lines and do not have any problems. The teflon wears off anyways, so the line gets progressively "drier" anyways so why not just start with a line that will not poison the environment for decades or centuries to come?

 

It would be one thing if teflon was biodegradable, but it isn't:

 

http://greenlivingideas.com/2012/06/13/how-toxic-is-teflon/

 

Once scratched, teflon pans begin an inevitable march toward complete exfoliation. That is, all that teflon is going to end up in your food, and then in you.

According to the Environmental Working Group, teflon and PFOA (which is the chemical used to make teflon) are some of the most persistent chemicals in the world. Their toxic legacy will outlive every one of us, and the next 25 generations of our offspring. Ironically, it may shorten each generation’s lifespan, as well. PFOA’s effects include liver damage, immune dysfunction, thyroid dysfunction, and a decreased ability to fight infection.

Teflon Kills Birds

PTFE is most notorious for its toxicity to birds. This has been referred to as “Teflon toxicosis” where the lungs of exposed birds hemorrhage, filling up with fluid and leading to suffocation. Here are some shocking stories of bird deaths related to Teflon (PTFE) exposure"

 

Teflon is a killer. So why do we fishermen use it and never question it I can only wonder? What type of fisherman have I become? One that cares? Or, one that could not care less?

I wish this website would take a stand on this issue and let's try and get the line industry to become more environmentally friendly and stop using teflon since it will be continuously accumulating in the environment with every roll sold, and will be there more than 25 generations of posterity down the road. Do we care about them?

All I can do is my small part to eliminate it from what I do and hope that this post will reach a few of you to do the same. We do not need teflon to catch fish. I believe that.

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I stopped using power pro because of the teflon lubricant they used on the line. Teflon is a poison. It does not break down over time. So the more power pro we use as fishermen the more teflon we are poisoning the environment with. And since it does not break down, it will still be there for our children and grandchildren, and great grandchildren and beyond.

 

Your reason for dumping Power Pro is more honorable than mine, my reason was more selfish   :D

Like most anglers, I entered the braid arena using Power Pro Braid (monkey see - monkey do).

Then one day about 6 years ago, my wife lost a couple of good fish on 30-lb Power Pro. I scolded her

for not monitoring her line more closely for frays and hairy line. Then later that same day, I lost a good bass of my own.

This continued for the next couple of outings until we finally realized that we were dealing with a bad batch of braid.

I must say, Power Pro was aboveboard and admitted to distributing a bad batch of 30-lb braid in their bulk spools,

which it was.  Power Pro also offered me a free replacement bulk spool, but I declined the free spool,

and replaced all my braid spools with another brand of braid.  I know I've told this story before,

but I also know that there's a couple thousand new members since then  ;-))

 

Roger

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