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Okay, if you could get only 1 which size...3/8oz or 1/2oz and what color? I'm thinking 1/2oz in the Chrome w/Black back but if the consensus is something different i could be persuaded.

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I like the 1/2 oz, color usually doesn't matter to me, I have a dozen different colors and they all work. The 3/8 is a tad small for my liking.

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I like the 1/2 oz also in any shad color. I like chrome in sunny weather and anything opaque in cloudy weather

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I have fished the 3/8 oz. since the mid 70's & caught many largemouth on them.

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1 hour ago, scbassin said:

I have fished the 3/8 oz. since the mid 70's & caught many largemouth on them.

Your old. ?

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Old, but good.

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Used to be a fellow here in Florida that for decades fished tournaments using only one lure - a Devils Horse. I'm told and have read that he averaged winning $ 30,000.00 per year. Supposedly he used the 3/8 oz, in green. He tweaked them by adding split rings and changing out the hooks plus several other "undisclosed" modifications. Keep in mind there are some pretty good sticks in north central Florida and he did quite well against some stiff competition. He was known as "One lure Charlie" and if I remember correctly his name was Charlie Orme. He was retired from the FWC and passed away several years ago.

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2 hours ago, Torn Thumb said:

*You're

You're correct.

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Smithwick Devil Horse lures came in several shapes and lengths; Pa Scooter, Ma Scooter, Buck n Brawl etc. What you all maybe talking about is the front and back propeller models.

My favorite is still the wooden 1/2 oz Buck n Brawl rear propeller model in Shad color.

Tom

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30 minutes ago, WRB said:

What you all maybe talking about is the front and back propeller models.

Yup, those are the ones I'm talking about :).

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I have one always tied on still one of the best topwaters for me of all time.. along with a zara spook. great down here in florida. 3/8 oz. any color will do.

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I don't fish the Devil's Horse but the H2O Slush Minnow from Academy has been good to me. I like the bluegill color. 

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Something for,,,

Clear to slightly stained water, it's Natural colors, smaller size.

Stained water, a tad brighter in color, a mix of smaller to medium in size.

Muddy water, brightest colors, largest in size.

Using a scent and a rattle is a plus.

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Although I usually use a torpedo's for propbait needs. I do have a few devils horse's and I have the 1/2 oz size one with a opague colored body and black splotches on its back, and one thats black, and one with a yellowish belly, I use these when the skies are cloudy, the winds picked up and the torpedo just isnt working, the louder double props seem to make just enough noise that matches its bigger profile.,.. and yeah sometimes equals bigger fish.

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On 9/22/2016 at 9:02 PM, davecon said:

Used to be a fellow here in Florida that for decades fished tournaments using only one lure - a Devils Horse. I'm told and have read that he averaged winning $ 30,000.00 per year. Supposedly he used the 3/8 oz, in green. He tweaked them by adding split rings and changing out the hooks plus several other "undisclosed" modifications. Keep in mind there are some pretty good sticks in north central Florida and he did quite well against some stiff competition. He was known as "One lure Charlie" and if I remember correctly his name was Charlie Orme. He was retired from the FWC and passed away several years ago.

He used to fish on Lake Harris all the time,I think it is the same guy....12lb test, all year long, I have read and heard many stories of him winning tournaments on nothing but the Devil's Horse. He would catch fish on them from morning to night, but some guys find a lure they gain confidence in, then they just get really good with it. If you stick with Topwater Fishing it is essentially one of the most efficient ways to fish since you are picking off all active fish, larger fish in general, and if you know the lake, all you need is 5 Fish...Active fish will see your bait sooner or later, that just takes faith.

Bernie Shultz is always fishing Prop Baits as well and he switched up and designed the Rapala XRap Prop, and I love Prop Baits, if they are hitting them with a buzz bait type retrieve they are fun, or a rip and pause, but I always give them a shot. The X-Rap is easier to cast, More flash, and has a different rotation, but the Devils horse is buoyant and the blades need to be perfect to get the right sound....

I usually use the smaller one which is really just thinner, and i like the yellow/Black, or the silver/blue. It is a popular lure in Florida, I never really saw people use them in NY, but some days they work well, If you can find the wooden one's on Ebay I would try to buy one of those for only a few bucks.They sit higher in the water, not sure color matters, I would just get the color you do best with on topwaters in general....

You can cast the smaller one on casting gear, the size really is not that different. I think the new ones are plastic but I am not sure, probably just as good.

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I have a couple, but for some reason the prop will not turn. (Not trying to Hijack th OPs thread but this could add to the thread) Is there a way to fix this, and how do you fish them?

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To adjust the prop just back out the screw in front of it a little bit. You can also tweak it by bending the blades ever so slightly. I recommend putting split rings on the hook hangers and slightly heavier hooks. I also put a barrel swivel on the front. Just bend the line tie out, slip the swivel on then bend the line tie back in to place.

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On September 22, 2016 at 0:04 PM, deaknh03 said:

I like the 1/2 oz, color usually doesn't matter to me, I have a dozen different colors and they all work. The 3/8 is a tad small for my liking.

The 3/8 and 1/2oz are both 4 1/2" long, same size!

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4 hours ago, WRB said:

The 3/8 and 1/2oz are both 4 1/2" long, same size!

I probably should have said a little too light, not small..but you knew that!

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15 minutes ago, deaknh03 said:

I probably should have said a little too light, not small..but you knew that!

When you say things on sites like this more than 1 person is reading the post.

I had to look it up because the double prop Devils Horse isn't one of my favorites.

Tom

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The 1st "Devil Horse" I bought was a Pa Scooter and still have it and caught a 8 lb bass on it at lake Irvine.  The "Devil Horse" that I have caught the most bass is Buck n Brawl, wooden lures that have been lost in time.

Tom

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Not arguing with anyone!

The title of this thread is "Smithwick Devil's Horse"

The link above tells it's history as told by Jack A. Smithwick Sr. the "& son" on the box.

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Catt thank you for posting the link very interesting. Jacks 3 bullet points apply to every top water lure.

Tom

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