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Any fine diameter braids that don't shred easily? I tried Nanofil finding it shredded WAY to easily. Most abrasion resistant braids out there? Nanobraid? Gliss? Smackdown? ...

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Abrasion resistance and braid do not fit in the same sentence.  It is exactly why many use a leader from some other material.

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steel…….if you can find a way to cast with it.

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What type of fishing are we talking about. Is this going on spinning gear to finesse fish, a baitcaster with light to medium heavy baits or are we talking going into the deepest darkest holes meaning frog. flipping and pitching?  What lures and what type of structure and techniques?  I ask because I use lots of different lines, some light some medium and some heavy pound test and also I use all types of mono, copolymer line and different braids for different purposes. Lines that are more abrasion resistant can be tough as nails but require some work to handle their memory. Tell us about what lures you want to fish, what rod or rods you are using to fish this way and finally what type of structure you are fishing. Just as an example I like to fish finesse baits on spinning gear especially around docks. If I am fishing the big lakes I visit out in Tennessee, like Dale Hollow, or Center Hill I can get away with thinner diameter fluoro or even mono. If I dock fish here on the Chesapeake Bay or the Potomac River I will encounter tough barnacles growing on the pilings, and even in some places old sunken ships with rebar or other metal debris. I go to Berkley FireLine, or Power Pro braid but add a leader made of P Line CXX moss green line copolymer line in 10 pound test. That line is made like steel, has a lot of memory and breaks around 22 pounds. The memory does not matter in this spot because I am only using 4 feet of it.  I use similar logic for all of my fishing spinning or baitcasters.

Anyway give us some more info and I will be happy to help more specifically.

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Bottom line is that braid is not abrasion resistant.  They just aren't thick enough to handle any nicks in them without significant strength reductions or breaking.  I would suggest using a mono or flouro leader with braid, they have a much higher diameter than braid.  If you are determined to use straight braid, use heavier braid when you need the abrasion resistance.  Instead of looking at the pound tests, look at the diameter as this is more accurate than the line rating, because the line rating's vary greatly and aren't accurate.

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I don't think it has anything to do with diameter, it's the material that it's made of that makes it abrasion resistant. I might be wrong idk..

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Diameter does have something to do with it; in that the thicker it is the longer it take to "saw" through it. A little extra material gives you a little more of what they call abrasion resistance.

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I don't think any braid is inherently abrasion-resistant, but some do better than others. 

I would say this....I use Gliss very often, it's one of my favorite lines, but it's terrible for abrasion resistance. I don't use it near shell beds or any other place it will be dragging over rough cover. Grasses are fine, but timber, rocks, and shells will wreak havoc on it. Don't use Gliss for abrasive situations. 

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Amen to that.  In rocky creeks I get a little better wear out of Sufix 832 but at the expense of casting distance.

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I think braid is more abrasion resistant than any other line when comparing LIKE diameters. I agree that Gliss is not great in this category but excels everywhere else. The other two braids I'm testing are Fins XS and Cabelas Rip Cord. I like these two so far but it's too early to recommend.

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16 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

What type of fishing are we talking about.

I've always said that if we could eliminate that pesky line going to our lures we'd have solved one angling's biggest issues. When Nanofil appeared I thought, "YES!!" I bought .002 dia Nanofil for nymphing (fly-fishing). Coupled with a tungsten beadhead nymph that terminal rig sliced current like a hot knife through butter! It worked! But, it shred so quickly I had to go back to mono/FC, which fished like rope by comparison.

So, I've been hoping for a tippet material that's as close to non-existence as possible. Hey, we can always dream.

1 hour ago, Preytorien said:

I don't think any braid is inherently abrasion-resistant, but some do better than others. 

I would say this....I use Gliss very often, it's one of my favorite lines, but it's terrible for abrasion resistance. I don't use it near shell beds or any other place it will be dragging over rough cover. Grasses are fine, but timber, rocks, and shells will wreak havoc on it. Don't use Gliss for abrasive situations. 

Preytorien, I'd seen your posts on Gliss, esp your abrasion tests. It kept my dream alive.

If I can get rid of the line to my lures... I'll rename myself ... Poseidon! Or Paul-seidon. And all fish will bow down before me. :D

Thanks all.

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I think Sufix 832 might be most resistant, but my preference is Gliss with a leader. 

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