@NorthwestBasser

 

OK your fishing a riprap bank throwing your crankbait 15' off the bank & not getting bit. So you change & start throwing 5' off the bank & start getting bit.

 

Was it because the bass were not holding 15' off the bank or was it because they were not willing to chase your crankbait that extra 10'.

 

The size of the "strike zone" depends on the activity level of the bass.

 

Sometimes ya gotta hit on the head to get em to bite, other times you'll see the wake coming from a distance to hammer your lure.

 

Why?

4 hours ago, Catt said:

 

The whole process of of catching is nothing more than a guess on our part!

 

" I much prefer to keep Zaleski's maxim, "close enough, for long enough" in mind instead."

 

Ya still just guessing ?

I agree, but Zaleski's phrase is just a nice play on depth and speed control, and that ain't guessing. Strike Zone/Window just doesn't do anything for me, though I think Ralph Manns is great ? 

4 hours ago, Team9nine said:

I agree, but Zaleski's phrase is just a nice play on depth and speed control, and that ain't guessing. Strike Zone/Window just doesn't do anything for me, though I think Ralph Manns is great ? 

 

Depth & speed control outside the strike zone is just fishing ?

For some reason a bass hitting a lure reminds me of one of my dogs attacking a toy that I shake at them.

 

Its often just an impulse they can’t resist. Sometimes they couldn’t care any less.

 

Of course there are lots of differences, but for some reason I like thinking of it like that.

Because their brain isn't very big

The real question is not why does a bass bite a lure, but how can I get them to do it. Doesn't really matter why.

This is  a great screen shot posted  by EverythingThatSwims . The shad are clearly trying to evade the bass . A lure that goes through there probably gets hammered even though there are thousands of baitfish .

 

 

16 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Depth & speed control outside the strike zone is just fishing ?

"Uncle" - Strike zone creates a nice visual for understanding  potential bass behavior, but is otherwise relatively meaningless from a practical standpoint...but use whatever works for you as an angler.

1 hour ago, Team9nine said:

"Uncle" - Strike zone creates a nice visual for understanding  potential bass behavior, but is otherwise relatively meaningless from a practical standpoint...but use whatever works for you as an angler.

 

Just busting your chops ?

 

There's probably some validity to it but how does it help me pattern fish?

On 1/30/2018 at 8:13 AM, Team9nine said:

 

 

As for the rest, I gave up a long time ago telling fish what they will or will not do. Just too many of them that don't want to listen to me 

 

Yeah I'm startin to think that Bass dont read the magazines or watch the videos on what they are supposed to do.

On 1/30/2018 at 9:03 AM, NorthwestBasser said:

See I've never looked at "strike zone" relating to an individual fish. Here's my idea, and it is more of a patterning thing, but maybe strike zone and pattern need each other to exist. I'm throwing a crankbait at a riprap bank in "x" f.o.w., i hook into a fish. Next cast I repeat, hook into a fish. That depth now became my "strike zone" and I will now focus on that particular depth and then try to pattern that situation finding similar banks, same distance on a point, same relation to the sun, wind, etc... never guaranteed but it's worked more times than not... I think, haha

I know I'm going to get a lot of push back from bass guys, and I'm not looking to change anyone's mind about fishing (or anything else really) but this frame of mind is the biggest deterrence to LMB guys catching more fish. fish will school, pod, or cluster by behavior or a result of the math (trust me or get a really big white erase board for the latter). The only thing we can deduce from catching fish in a given place is that there are (were) fish there. Every thing else is conjecture.

On 1/30/2018 at 10:12 PM, IndianaFinesse said:

The real question is not why does a bass bite a lure, but how can I get them to do it. Doesn't really matter why.

The 'why' is the best way to the 'how'. But, admittedly, not easy to get at. But I'm given em hell!

On 1/30/2018 at 8:01 AM, Catt said:

@NorthwestBasser

...Sometimes ya gotta hit on the head to get em to bite, other times you'll see the wake coming from a distance to hammer your lure.

 

Why?

It is a little known fact that LMB have a random number generator in their brains, similiar to those found in computerized slot machines or video poker.  Every morning, the RNG spits out a number that that particular bass will use that day to determine how far they will chase a bait.

 

Some fish have faulty RNG's that continually give them different numbers throughout the day...

 

 

That is way Canada went to the Metric System .... track their willingness to move in millimeters.