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It seems these two baits have the best water burning ability and big bass ability. I do all bank fishing any other suggestions that meet the criteria? Water is usually stained but not dirty 

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8 minutes ago, Tvm said:

It seems these two baits have the best water burning ability and big bass ability. I do all bank fishing any other suggestions that meet the criteria? Water is usually stained but not dirty 

There are three water columns that you have to test: topwater, middle water, and bottom water.

 

The buzzbait is totally topwater although you can fish it slow within the other two water levels. I have caught smallmouth on a buzzbait fished off the bottom.

 

The spinnerbait is for all water levels. You can see it in the top water level; see it disappear below the surface; fish it slow in the middle water level; and bounce it off the bottom or "slow roll" it on the bottom.

 

Just go out there and experiment and have some fun with both. And don't forget your trailer hook on both, too.

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I don't know if they're "the best" lures, but they are definitely good lures for covering water from the bank...they are very effective catching bass in shallow cover, and they get hung up less than trebled lures.

 

My current personal best largemouth was a spinnerbait fish. The previous one was a buzzbait fish. Both were caught from a kayak, but from spots that you could have cast to from the bank.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Sam said:

There are three water columns that you have to test: topwater, middle water, and bottom water.

 

The buzzbait is totally topwater although you can fish it slow within the other two water levels. I have caught smallmouth on a buzzbait fished off the bottom.

 

The spinnerbait is for all water levels. You can see it in the top water level; see it disappear below the surface; fish it slow in the middle water level; and bounce it off the bottom or "slow roll" it on the bottom.

 

Just go out there and experiment and have some fun with both. And don't forget your trailer hook on both, too.

Any reason for trailer hooks? 

 

I throw my spinnerbait like I would a jig since I only carry one pole. 

 

Megastrike has a swinging hook spinnerbait it would be a good compromise to the trailer hooks but I throw cheap Wahoo spinnerbaits 

 

Caught 6 of my biggest bass all over 5lbs on a public pond on spinnerbaits buzz but I'm a big believer in covering water and I like to fish my spinnerbait fast never had much luck with the slow roll. 

 

Do you make contact with the bottom when doing so? 

 

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Spinnerbaits and buzzbaits will always be staples in tackle-boxes . They can be fished in heavy cover and have high hook-up ratios . 

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Try a MagUltra-vibe Speed Worm. They can be fished from top to bottom and really shine when retrieved fast.

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/zoom-mag-ultravibe-speed-worm

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If your water is clear of vegetation on the surface you should try a whopper plopper 110. Draws big fish like a buzzbait but casts further, stays on the surface better, can be fished slower or stopped. 

 

Also, I hear more about bladed jigs producing bigger bass more than spinnerbaits. Just what I have heard...

 

buzzbaits and spinnerbaits are great at not getting hung up in cover though. 

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9 hours ago, Tvm said:

Any reason for trailer hooks? 

 

I throw my spinnerbait like I would a jig since I only carry one pole. 

 

Megastrike has a swinging hook spinnerbait it would be a good compromise to the trailer hooks but I throw cheap Wahoo spinnerbaits 

 

Caught 6 of my biggest bass all over 5lbs on a public pond on spinnerbaits buzz but I'm a big believer in covering water and I like to fish my spinnerbait fast never had much luck with the slow roll. 

 

Do you make contact with the bottom when doing so? 

 

Trailer hooks are great for short strikes.

 

Give it a try.

 

You can use the same size as  your buzzbait/spinnerbait hook or one size smaller.

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Chatterbait

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12 hours ago, Jig Man said:

Zara Spook

Very good big bass ability, but not so good water burning ability....

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Covering dirty water=bladed jig

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As I don't own a boat, I find myself fishing a lot of shallow water from the shore and I do myself constantly using a spinnerbait or buzzbait. It seems there are some lakes around me where I'll never get even the tiniest nibble on a spinnerbait or buzzbait no matter what the conditions are, but on other lakes there are days it seems the flash and vibrations attract the bass when nothing else would.

 

Crankbaits and spooks are also effective at covering water, but not so much for being burned.

9 hours ago, FCPhil said:

Also, I hear more about bladed jigs producing bigger bass more than spinnerbaits. Just what I have heard...

I believe this is all about profile. A 3/8oz spinnerbait without a trailer will certainly have less profile than a bladed jig with a trailer (and if you are going for size you probably want a 4.3" keitech on either). But if you are targeting bigger bass with a spinnerbait, you want to use a 3/4oz or even a 1/oz spinnerbait which is much larger than the 3/8oz or 1/2oz spinnerbaits I would normally throw to catch them in quantity (and sometimes quality too). I know a lot of people have caught their 10+ pounders fishing these large spinnerbaits.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

As I don't own a boat, I find myself fishing a lot of shallow water from the shore and I do myself constantly using a spinnerbait or buzzbait. It seems there are some lakes around me where I'll never get even the tiniest nibble on a spinnerbait or buzzbait no matter what the conditions are, but on other lakes there are days it seems the flash and vibrations attract the bass when nothing else would.

 

Crankbaits and spooks are also effective at covering water, but not so much for being burned.

I believe this is all about profile. A 3/8oz spinnerbait without a trailer will certainly have less profile than a bladed jig with a trailer (and if you are going for size you probably want a 4.3" keitech on either). But if you are targeting bigger bass with a spinnerbait, you want to use a 3/4oz or even a 1/oz spinnerbait which is much larger than the 3/8oz or 1/2oz spinnerbaits I would normally throw to catch them in quantity (and sometimes quality too). I know a lot of people have caught their 10+ pounders fishing these large spinnerbaits.

 

 

Have you had much success on a steady retrieves on spinnerbaits? I feel like steady retrieves rarely  produce for me on any subsurface lure, whether it be spinnerbaits, swimjig, swimbaits...I have had a little success on a straight retrieve with crankbaits, but still not great. 

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Some great suggestions here. I'm about half boat half bank fishing at the moment. Two burnable baits that haven't been list yet that are in my bank fishing bag are a lipless crank and a swim jig. 

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10 minutes ago, FCPhil said:

Have you had much success on a steady retrieves on spinnerbaits? I feel like steady retrieves rarely  produce for me on any subsurface lure, whether it be spinnerbaits, swimjig, swimbaits...I have had a little success on a straight retrieve with crankbaits, but still not great. 

Sometimes I'll burn them, and sometimes I'll use a stop and go retrieve, but I usually have the most success slow rolling spinnerbaits, even later in the year when burning them starts to be more effective. If there is anything to hit like rocks at the bottom, stumps etc then that can cause a deflection, that helps and the same holds true with a square bill.

 

For what it's worth, I have absolutely slayed them at times with a spinnerbait but never had the same success on a chatterbaits, but I know many people have the opposite experience. I also generally have the most success with willow/colorado blades, then dual willow blades most of the time as most of our water is quite clear.

 

 

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My thoughts on trailer hooks- When fishing tournaments I always use a trailer hook -whatever I have to do to increase the odds of hooking that fish _I TAKE IT --when fun fishing -I don't use one-

 

As for covering water. From May until Oct my day starts covering water with a buzz bait to find active fish. Usually I look for the greenest = healthiest weeds in the lake-Then I look for the "BASS MAGNETS " in the weeds such as rock-boulders -stumps-laydowns -That will position them in a high percentage area. Targets -cover- for a better use in terminology . Like the spinner bait -the buzz bait covers water quickly -I find the buzz bait will locate more active fish -call them out to say-  Once I find a group of fish-I will try different techniques to catch them -spinner baits Jigs -etc. -Once I have exhausted those means -I move on -One thing I have learned is the bass are usually in the same area- The reason they are there -FOOD COMFORT AND SHELTER-- they are there for a reason and don't have to move until those variables are gone or depleted..  Yes Ploppers are great baits but I let the fish tell me what they are looking for- Ploppers are loud and obnoxious- Bass usually try to crush or destroy ?kill them - I can adjust the commotion by the size blade Im using -less commotion I use the 1/4 oz Cav  Lots of commotion =the 3/8 or 1/2 oz sizes- Anglers that learn to adjust or adapt are the ones that produce more fish at weigh in - learn to evolve or become extinct.

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Thanks for the suggestions also what do you guys think about the hollow body plastic frogs with the paddle feet like the stanley ribbit? 

 

I think this is a greatweedless option to the whopper and buzzbait. 

 

How do you guys prefer to fish these? 

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30 minutes ago, Tvm said:

Thanks for the suggestions also what do you guys think about the hollow body plastic frogs with the paddle feet like the stanley ribbit? 

 

I think this is a greatweedless option to the whopper and buzzbait. 

 

How do you guys prefer to fish these? 

I have used the Stanley Top Toad and it works great but I strongly recommend the Teckel Sprinker frog. It’s pricy but it is the closest thing you will find to a weedless whopper plopper. The hookup ratio is excellent as well. 

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3 hours ago, Boomstick said:

Sometimes I'll burn them, and sometimes I'll use a stop and go retrieve, but I usually have the most success slow rolling spinnerbaits, even later in the year when burning them starts to be more effective.

I dont know what it is called but I catch a lot of bass by letting the spinnerbait sort of fade away . I'll be reeling by a piece of cover at a steady pace then slowly lower  the rod and slow down the retrieve . I'm not killing it ,  just letting it fade away . 

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Frogs catch giants no doubt- -when its matted up vegetation is when I go to the frog -its slow any methodical but I don't use it as a search bait - When I know they are in that area- I will sit there and pluck them out one at a time-  You get 5 frog bite fish in a tournament I can pretty much guarantee you coming home with a check. 

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19 hours ago, scaleface said:

I dont know what it is called but I catch a lot of bass by letting the spinnerbait sort of fade away . I'll be reeling by a piece of cover at a steady pace then slowly lower  the rod and slow down the retrieve . I'm not killing it ,  just letting it fade away . 

I would call that stop and go, almost jigging it. I've had luck that way too sometimes.

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