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I've been tying up some Clousers for my SW club's table at the NJ Fly Fishing Show in January.  Not quite bucktail jigs.  The balance point is different than on a bucktail jig.  If you tied the dumbbell eyes right behind the hook eye you'd have a bucktail jig.

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Still tying some Clousers.  These are panfish size, tied on a Daiichi 2461, size 6.  Should be able to catch some bass on them.

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The last of my Clouser ties.  These are heavy duty ones.  Tied on a TMC saltwater streamer hook, size 2/0.  I made up the dumbbell eyes with heavy wire used for spinner baits and large tungsten cone heads, thread, superglue and UV resin.  They're made to imitate sand eels.  They will hurt if you hit yourself in the back of the head when casting one.. I might tie up a couple for bass fishing using a lighter wire hook and lighter dumbbell eyes.

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On 12/12/2021 at 9:20 PM, guidoStow said:

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Nice ties.  I like the use of strung fuzzy fiber for the head.  I think that's easier to work with than deer hair.

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Looks good man.  I tied my first fly in about 4 months the other night.  Didn't have anything in mind, just playing around and seeing what I could do.  Came up with this....single joint and tied on a 2/0 EWG worm hook and a few wraps of lead on the belly to ride hook up.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Fallser said:

Nice ties.  I like the use of strung fuzzy fiber for the head.  I think that's easier to work with than deer hair.

Thanks for your kind words!

I do both, but the strung fuzzy fiber sinks faster and deeper than the head tied with the bucktail butts of a normal bulkhead so it can be used more effectively in certain situations. They both definitely have their place in the box... I also tie a variation with big fly fiber in the tail for an all synthetic variant. These guys split the difference... 

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I am gonna be getting to tying here soon but I gotta get all the Christmas decorations up and my garage/tying area straightened up.  I also need to focus more because I have a tough time sticking to one pattern because I am always tinkering lol.  I really want to do some more crayfish imitations but I have a **** load of clawdads already and they do well for me.  

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1 hour ago, flyfisher said:

I am gonna be getting to tying here soon but I gotta get all the Christmas decorations up and my garage/tying area straightened up.  I also need to focus more because I have a tough time sticking to one pattern because I am always tinkering lol.  I really want to do some more crayfish imitations but I have a **** load of clawdads already and they do well for me.  

I tend to have the opposite problem, I tie up a dozen of whatever I’m tying and gob them up into a box somewhere. Then I can never get them apart , I have 12 of everything and never use any of it 

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17 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

I also need to focus more because I have a tough time sticking to one pattern because I am always tinkering lol.

I do the same thing.  Though I've been pretty good the last month or so.  Got all the Clousers done for my SW Club's table as the Edison, NJ Fly Fishing Show.  Finished up the bucktails I was tying on 1/20 oz jigs to use with my fly rod.  I'll post a picture of the batch when I get one taken.   I still have to finish up the 1/32 oz hair jigs.  I picked up a bunch of jigs and TRD's for the Ned rig last year to use on my Ontario trip, but never used them.  The 1/20 oz ones I'm going to tie my standard crayfish fly on and try with the fly rod.  The heavier ones I'm going to split between the crayfish pattern and the TRD's.  Plus finish up the bucktail and hair jigs I tying for the guys I fish with.  But there's always something new to think up. 

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41 minutes ago, Fallser said:

I do the same thing.  Though I've been pretty good the last month or so.  Got all the Clousers done for my SW Club's table as the Edison, NJ Fly Fishing Show.  Finished up the bucktails I was tying on 1/20 oz jigs to use with my fly rod.  I'll post a picture of the batch when I get one taken.   I still have to finish up the 1/32 oz hair jigs.  I picked up a bunch of jigs and TRD's for the Ned rig last year to use on my Ontario trip, but never used them.  The 1/20 oz ones I'm going to tie my standard crayfish fly on and try with the fly rod.  The heavier ones I'm going to split between the crayfish pattern and the TRD's.  Plus finish up the bucktail and hair jigs I tying for the guys I fish with.  But there's always something new to think up. 

What weight rod are you chucking jig heads with? I’ve tried before and got smacked with a jig head haha. I’ve also casted weightless finesse worms on 5 weight and they basically came through my armpit on the forward cast haha

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On 12/27/2021 at 8:31 PM, TnRiver46 said:

I tend to have the opposite problem, I tie up a dozen of whatever I’m tying and gob them up into a box somewhere. Then I can never get them apart , I have 12 of everything and never use any of it 

I think for me it goes back to when I used to tie for a few shops.  I would tie dozens of the same fly and would get bored but it gave me some spending money so I suffered through it.  I remember when golden retrievers became the hot fly I tied so many it made my eyes bleed but we couldn't keep them in stock.  Of course back when I was doing this the flies for sale were more basic which probably added to the boredom.  I got away from tying for a while and was pleasantly surprised with all the advancements...it was real nice to not have to cut hooks to make shanks for articulated flies :). 

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8 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

What weight rod are you chucking jig heads with? I’ve tried before and got smacked with a jig head haha. I’ve also casted weightless finesse worms on 5 weight and they basically came through my armpit on the forward cast haha

I got hit with a large Clouser in the back of the head when I was learning to fly fish in salt water.  I still don't tie heavily weighted flies.  A 9' 6 wgt.  It's my primary bass rod.  1/20th and 1/32 oz aren't really that heavy for a 6 wgt.

A large tungsten bead can weight that much.  What pound test or X tippet are you using?  What weight rod?    That may be the problem.  I use heavy furled leaders with a 6 to 8 foot tippet.  My tippet is usually 20# or 25# fluorocarbon.  A lot of the lakes I fish are weedy, and I'm not feeling very sporting these.  If I hook a good bass, I want to land it. You did mention a 5 wgt.  I haven't tried them with my 5 wgt.  I don't think the 1/32 oz ones would be a problem, not sure about the 1/20th oz ones.  I would use the heavy leader with it though.

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8 hours ago, Fallser said:

I got hit with a large Clouser in the back of the head when I was learning to fly fish in salt water.  I still don't tie heavily weighted flies.  A 9' 6 wgt.  It's my primary bass rod.  1/20th and 1/32 oz aren't really that heavy for a 6 wgt.

A large tungsten bead can weight that much.  What pound test or X tippet are you using?  What weight rod?    That may be the problem.  I use heavy furled leaders with a 6 to 8 foot tippet.  My tippet is usually 20# or 25# fluorocarbon.  A lot of the lakes I fish are weedy, and I'm not feeling very sporting these.  If I hook a good bass, I want to land it. You did mention a 5 wgt.  I haven't tried them with my 5 wgt.  I don't think the 1/32 oz ones would be a problem, not sure about the 1/20th oz ones.  I would use the heavy leader with it though.

I was just messing around years ago in a fly fishing only pond. The fish wouldn’t hit flies so I put a finesse worm on it hahah. It made the craziest sound whizzing by me, I didn’t realize how heavy a finesse worm with no sinker was. Felt like it would snap the rod on a haul 

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4 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

I was just messing around years ago in a fly fishing only pond. The fish wouldn’t hit flies so I put a finesse worm on it hahah. It made the craziest sound whizzing by me, I didn’t realize how heavy a finesse worm with no sinker was. Felt like it would snap the rod on a haul 

I've thrown ned rigs on my 7wt before with no issues.  You just have to glue the bait to the hook or it will rip off during the cast.  I've done the same with nose hooked stickbaits too.  A purist I am not.....I rarely hit myself with flies but I think that goes back to me learning how to fish with a 4wt and I used it for everything.  I didn't "know" I wasn't supposed to throw heavy stuff on it so I adapted my casting stroke accordingly.  Comes in handy now even though I have more fly rods that I know what to do with at the moment lol

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This fall I cast a tungsten cone head through the tip of a rod stowed on deck of my old Native Kayak. Broke it off quite cleanly. Fortunately TFO still had spare parts for it still available... An expensive lesson. And the final thing that convinced me to get a new kayak. It is hard to Belgium cast from a seated position!  

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2 hours ago, guidoStow said:

This fall I cast a tungsten cone head through the tip of a rod stowed on deck of my old Native Kayak. Broke it off quite cleanly. Fortunately TFO still had spare parts for it still available... An expensive lesson. And the final thing that convinced me to get a new kayak. It is hard to Belgium cast from a seated position!  

I had a TFO break that was no longer in production.  They gave me the full retail cost as a credit towards a new rod which was $100 more than I actually paid for the rod.  I got to pick out a new rod and ended up getting a 8wt mangrove coast for $40...not a bad deal.  I guess the one advantage of buying from a place that gets their stuff made overseas......my sage xp that I busted they repaired at a cost of about $150 but was totally worth it as that is still one of my favorite rods and my goto 99% of the time when fishing for smallies.

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